I don't know why you are picking a fight with the Blu-ray supporters are why you are calling them assholes and actually felt the need to make a sig about it.  I suggest you get a life and respect other people's opinions instead of pushing your own ideas.  It seems you don't like the reason people are supporting blu-ray.  Which boggles the mind why that would bother you. 

"My beef with the HD format war is not about blu-ray vs HD-DVD. It's about honest supporters being outnumbered by assholes, who only pretend to care about the formats, while they just want to gloat about anything.

I apopologize to blu-ray that most of these assholes claim to be on blu-ray's side. "

You actually changed your sig and apologized to a format for the actions of others.  WTH is wrong with you? What do you gain from any of this?  I understand having a debate over an issue but reading though all your posts on this topic makes me actually pity you, if you actually are like this in real life then that is pretty sad. 

"I don't know why you are picking a fight with the Blu-ray supporters"

I stated earlier that it's not the supporters. It's those who just claim support as an excuse for trolling. Trolls are assholes, so that still stands.

Im gonna have to stop ya right there piglet... What world are YOU living in lol, jeez.

One again, with no disrespect towards yourself....but you're a nobody, sitting there calling someone as successful and brilliant as Micheal Bay a "moron" who's also a "shitty director"... buddy, your way outta your league. Just stop where you're at..turn around, think twice about what you say.. and take 10 seconds before spouting that bs lol.

 You're a mod?...and you're talking about how you're "shedding tears" on hd-dvd's thorn covered bed? Lol..you have to be kidding me. It's hilarious that YOU...think you know more about the inner workings of ANYTHING even remotley related to cinema or corporate politics that Bay discussed in his rants.

 Im 100% sure Micheal Bay knows ALOT more then you in regards to anything going on in the high-def war or the payola that ms is clearly trying to present to movie companies in a bitter attempt to keep hd-dvd afloat above the Deep Blu Sea. : )

 --Because in the end its Micheal Bay telling you what's REALLY going on, in contrast to YOU...talking out of your pig behind about a subject you know nothing about.

Btw: Im not trying to single you out and theres no alternate motives for my comments in regards to your views..but I just can't standby while statements like that are presented and non challanged by anyone on here.

I'm not saying I agree with the idea, just that it has been widely commented on (if not reported as fact by a reliable source). As far as Bay goes I had heard that hypothesis long before he opened his yap.

Now, would it make sense for MS to offer such a deal (or aid Tosihiba with their end of it)? Doesn't seem like it to me, but then I also don't think it makes sense to flush... is it 6 billion now?... down the toilet in order to launch a video games console that could be used some 20 years down the road to dominate the living room unified home entertainment unit market. Their download service is certainly a part of that, and given how much they have laid out already, 150 million is a relative drop in the bucket.

And the issue is settled:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978461.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1

What reason sounds dubious to you?

That supporting 3 formats requires more time and expense devoted to putting out each title on home video and also leads to screw ups like putting some HDDVDs in the BluRay Harrry Potter set?

That there was only one major studio (Universal) willing to side with HDDVD without being bribed outright?

That BluRay has a much larger worldwide user base thanks to the PS3?

That BR standalone players outsold HDDVD players over the holiday season, despite costing twice as much (or more)?

That BR movies outsell HDDVD consistently by a factor of 2 or 3?

That going with HDDVD is keeping the format war going, which is causing many customers to hold off buying DVDs (including regular def) until this is settled?

That retailers would rather sell BluRay players over HDDDVD because of the higher mark up,and so devote more shelf space and advertising to that format?

Other than the money being offered by the HDDVD camp, what reason was there NOT to switch?

Hold the phone...

Here's another article with a little more:

http://www.contentagenda.com/blog/1500000150/post/190019619.html

The relevent quote:

"There is absolutely no incentive from either side that would have changed the decision we made based on what we were seeing in the consumer data," he said. "The worldwide DVD business is about $40 billion. Any incentives we might have been offered would have paled next to the lost profits from that business if we get this one wrong.”

If you carefully examine the quotes in each article, he neither confirms nor denies being offered or accepting an incentive. Rather he states that such incentives would not have changed his mind on the issue. Therefore it is possible that Warner accepted money to do what it was planning on doing anyway (happens all the time in congress).

Understand that I am not saying this is the case, just that based on these few quotes, if they are accurate, nothing definitive can be said. We either need  a straightfoward answer ("we have not accepted any incentives for siding with BluRay") or a full transcript of the relevent part of the conference in order to be sure.

Personally, I don't much care if they did take money or not - logically it was the only path that made sense.

Sorry but Michael Bay is a shitty director. Maybe you disagree but I'm not quite sure how anyone would. While most people I know disagree on almost everything in movies, one of the few constants in cinema seems to be the utter distate for all things Michael Bay.

And where on Earth was I shedding tears about HD-DVD? Maybe that was your weak attempt at clever prose but I have made it clear multiple times that I don't care for either format and don't really give a rat's ass who wins in the end. I also fail to see how my mod status has anything to do with what I said in my post but feel free to extrapolate upon a simple statement and twist my words into whatever you feel I really mean.

On that topic, where did I say that I knew more about the industry than Michael Bay? I pointed out that he didn't state that MS had anything to do with the moneyhatting behind the HD-DVD deal, a misunderstanding that has been fed through the Intraweb rumor mill more times than I care to count. He mentioned that MS is trying to move toward a download system, which anyone with a brain can see a mile away, whether they are in the biz or not.

In short, your reading comprehension sucks. I think that about sums it up. 

You how sometimes in baseball a team makes a trade that nest them an all star, a solid position player, and some guy on the bench who won't even be named in the headlines? Guess which one is HBO. 

People keep going on and on about one format being better and bla bla but I totally disagree. If from the outset there had been just Blu Ray then uptake till now would have been even less. Stand alone players would have cost over $500. Much less people would have bought stand alone players than they would have now. The only affordable player would have been a games console. In fact there is the possibility there would have been no affordable high def player because I am convinced the only reason Sony included blu ray in PS3 was to ensure victory over Blu Ray. Without a competing format there would have been no need for this. And movies would have been more expensive.

The format war has caused prices to fall so quickly that many more people have been able to jump in at an early stage than would have been the case if there had been a single format.