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palestinian official on cbc just called the western wall an apartheid wall...the rest of what she was saying was just as ignorant and stupid... it really doesnt help the palestinian cause to have such people as their representatives.



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MrBubbles said:

palestinian official on cbc just called the western wall an apartheid wall...the rest of what she was saying was just as ignorant and stupid... it really doesnt help the palestinian cause to have such people as their representatives.

I don't know, i mean... when you consider the other people they could have as their representatives want to "Push Israel into the sea"...



Bibi's speech was pretty darn good. I watched all 30 minutes of it. He made Abbas look like an idiot.



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so what happens now? the whole fuss was just about the speeches ? XD



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Of course its Apartheid mark II. The only problem is that the west is just rolling over and letting it keep happening this time



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It's too soon to give Palestine a full membership of the UN but I think Sarkozy's idea of giving them a higher status is a good compromise, atleast for now. The next step must be the recognisation of Palestine as a state. That's really something that needs to get solved before we can talk about full UN memberships.
The far majority of nations seems to approve of a two state solution, thankfully, but we need to see some action!



sad.man.loves.vgc said:

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The countries that recognise Palestine comprise around 5.5bn of the world's population of 7bn – more than 75% – but based on World Bank GDP figures make up less than 10% of the world's economy, highlighting the global rift on what remains a highly contentious topic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/20/palestinians-recognised-two-thirds-globe


That's funny, China alone makes up more than 10% of the world's economy.

http://www.economist.com/node/21528591



ArcticGabe said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

Share news, thoughts and opinions here!

 

for a start:

The countries that recognise Palestine comprise around 5.5bn of the world's population of 7bn – more than 75% – but based on World Bank GDP figures make up less than 10% of the world's economy, highlighting the global rift on what remains a highly contentious topic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/20/palestinians-recognised-two-thirds-globe


That's funny, China alone makes up more than 10% of the world's economy.

http://www.economist.com/node/21528591


isn't china backing abbas? :/



sad.man.loves.vgc said:
ArcticGabe said:
 


That's funny, China alone makes up more than 10% of the world's economy.

http://www.economist.com/node/21528591


isn't china backing abbas? :/


No.  It's backing Palestine's submitting of it's bid....

China's reduced it's support for Palestine ever since Mao Ze Dong died.

They're only supporting the Palestinian bid because they know America will veto it, and can use this to increase relations in the region after the beating it's taken by basically being against every arab spring revolution.

China largely dropped the anti-Israel rhetoric after Mao Ze Dong died, and actually, Israel is their second best weapons supplier and best supplier of US arms technology.  (Well, outside of hacking.)

I'd expect at best an abstention, unless they make some pretty good silent deals with Israel to make it up to them.


It's worth noting that originally, China backed the Israel led actions against a Nuclear Iran.  Backing off only due to Iran being attacked likely cutting their oil supply.

Although, I think his point above, wasn't that China didn't support Palestine, it's that it DID support the bid, and therefore the less then 10% of GDP number isn't correct.

That said though, i'd point out that very few countries actually do support an independent Palestine, including very few middleastern countries, those who did fight wars over it in the past just used it as an excuse to landgrab.  (See Jordan's annexation, and egypts removal of the Palestinian government.)