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Hmm now that I think of it, that whole text box could interchangeably use Baal instead of Trucks.



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theprof00 said:
Trucks, what about Heph?

I trust Heph to a certain extent, just because he fought so hard to have Linkz lynched and I don't think scum who put in that much effort to get someone innocent lynched.



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theprof00 said:
@Baal
Did you manage to get an action in last night? I ask this because I thought you were the doc, yet surely nen should've been protected.

I didn't have the ability to target anybody last night, unfortunately.



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radishhead said:
Oh, I didn't realise the thread was ready again

I'm afraid that I have nothing to report from last night :/



did you get punished (you did say follow or somehting ^^) or did you get no result? cause that second on is actually information ^^



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TruckOSaurus said:
A Bad Clown might not have been lying about everything after all. Looking at the OP, it seems nen-suer was not killed by the same person as Final-Fan and hatmoza:

Final-Fan(shot)
hatmoza(shot)
nen-suer(broken neck)

My guess would that the recruiting part was true and that before ABC and his stone were "found" by the Mafia, they couldn't kill. This would mean that ABC lied about targetting Linkz on the first night and that he was the one who killed hatmoza. I'm still not sure what he would gain from this lie though.


except ABC's role in the op is evil minion... not SK turned evil minion....

Moreover the kill on the first night spoke of a group of people no? with one talking about hat not being dead enough (or was that FF's?).

With all the X shot players arround, I wouldn't rule out the broken neck being a mafia/3rd party extra kill... with the doc saving the mafia kill last night.



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Hephaestos said:
radishhead said:
Oh, I didn't realise the thread was ready again

I'm afraid that I have nothing to report from last night :/



did you get punished (you did say follow or somehting ^^) or did you get no result? cause that second on is actually information ^^

It's the second one, but I don't think the information is that important to be honest - should I reveal anyway?



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Night 1
"
Some people were talking but nothing could be made out over the wind. Not long after the voices stopped there was the sound of a few round fired from a semiautomatic. No one dared move until sunrise.
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umh ... not quite as conclusive as I thought but still there is a connection between the voices and the shot, so mafia ^^



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radishhead said:
Hephaestos said:
radishhead said:
Oh, I didn't realise the thread was ready again

I'm afraid that I have nothing to report from last night :/



did you get punished (you did say follow or somehting ^^) or did you get no result? cause that second on is actually information ^^

It's the second one, but I don't think the information is that important to be honest - should I reveal anyway?

Radish... you're confirmed in your role by serving a scum on the platter to the town and a clean scan by the dead cop, there is no reason for you to hide anything...



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theprof00 said:
Now the question I have is, why nen?
Why would they risk being blocked at such a crucial point in the game?
Is someone now seriously afraid at having been copped? I remember Trucks saying that it would be a waste to either track him or cop him. So then why was the cop riskily killed? And who killed him? Obviously if Trucks was scum, then a different person could do the killing. If Trucks were to be scanned scum last night, it would be all over for him. So maybe he sat at home, and knowing he might be tracked, sent someone else to kill the cop, thereby tying up the two loose ends.

I see the motive, and the ability. The question is just "did that happen"?
Did Trucks send someone else to kill the cop that was most likely going to cop him, knowing that the cop could be protected? It smells desperate. So where does that desperation come from? From ABC's accusations? And what of the note in ABC's pocket? Is there infighting in the mafia team?

On the other hand, say the kill had been blocked. Right now we are at mylo, unless there is a third party SK. Had it been blocked, we'd have two lynches. Say the cop investigated the wrong person and cleared them. That would make 3 cleared townies, and two lynches. That would be a really awkward position, especially having just been accused. If they lynched the correct person in the next two lynches, that could be the end too.

The point of this all is that they could have killed anyone and driven to mylo. Possible cop targets were Baal and Trucks, I think.

I'm just worried that this is a set-up, without real proof we are going to need a lot of discussion.

How was last night more crucial than any other? the mafia is 4 for 1.... a rather good score

I'd wager that with nen and you being the only claimants for protection, the mafia got scared yesterday yes, but bold today.... that is, unless they had 2 kills tonigh as I theorised before... in which case, putting one of these on the cop would make perfect sense.

 

Moreover, you seem a bit too sure of the notion where trucks sends someone else to do the bidding... as if you had info. You did talk of a role on day 1 (?), but that seems a bit off here. I conceed that the idea has merit though and is a logical scenario, besides the different kill type. The only way your scenario is true is if you agree with truck's stone to be able to kill theory.... weren't you two the ones arguing about the stone day one?

I'm not pressing that point though, because I believe that the stone scenario is wrong... but I mentioned it as, well I can be wrong as was shown with linkz.

 

In my opinion, the safer kill target was radish last night, not asking doc protection and having just proven himself to have a good view of this round, and most especally, not likely to be countered by a miller claim, so i'm not as confident as you on the motive.

As you say, lots of discution ^^



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I can confirm that Baal didn't do anything last night, nor was visited by anyone - I probably should have chosen a better target



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