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Baalzamon said:
You know, one almost gets the feeling we would be best off just to get rid of Linkz, so we can talk about something else, rather than him continuing to suck up all of our attention.

It does not make sense to me at all why a simple miller is trying to grab the attention of everybody in the game. He should be trying to divert it, so we have the potential to kill a mafia member. Maybe he feels his life is less important than us losing a potential power role though, I have no clue.

Hmmm, you've been defending me for a while now, but now you talk of getting rid of me just to talk about something else. If everyone that said they don't think I'm scum doesn't vote me, then I'm not going to be lynched, so how bout you simply move the topic instead of continuing to be the apparent problem.

How do you blame me for grabbing attention? I'm not trying to keep the focus on me and I have zero control over what others post. I've merely defended myself to meta attacks. And I'm not interested in diverting attention, that's what scum want to do. Besides, I HAVE been scumhunting. The look at nen would not have happened without me pushing for it.



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Final-Fan said:

Afraid?  Afraid of what?  I don't even understand how that makes sense. 

As for relieved, that would imply that not only am I scum but at least one of Linkz and nen are also scum, which you said you don't think. 

In reality, I'm just starting to get tired of how long the day is lasting.  I guess Heph seems like an alright target, and people have talked about lynching ABC, but neither of them seems to have as much against them as nen or Linkz did. 

I would be a pompous player if I ever took my own words as evidence. I thought they were both scum at one point. And still both harbor some suspicion in my opinion. But, just because I may have moved away from them as primary suspects, it doesn't mean that the inclusion of new information can't also alter my original perceptions. But I think you've made your point sufficiently. On retrospect I think I might have been reaching due to the abject failure against nen, and possibly subconsciously trying to comfort myself with the possibility that I indeed WAS RIGHT after all about nen.

I'm tired of the day length too, and I think I need a break so I can just refresh myself and reevaluate what's going on lol. With that said, I'm going to put forward my candidates and respond to the rest of your post as well.

First, to respond, Heph is giving me a town read as well as Trucks because it seems to me that they aren't simply relying on information that is brought forth but are really analyzing the information and not just using it for the evidence that it is. I don't see much wrong with Heph. I don't even think the arguments against him are very good. I think Heph is going after suspects in the wrong way and is stuck on the miller thing, but I don't agree that that makes him scum. Sure he very well could be scum, but if I were to make a list of people to lynch today in hopes of hitting scum, Heph would be at least 6th in line.

My top two would be Linkz and ABC, at about equal importance. This would be closely followed by Radish, Vette and Baal, again equally suspicious joined by pending evidence on nen-suer.. After that it's hard to say, some combination of you trucks and Heph. But then again, you, trucks, and Heph are very good.

Currently, I'm trying to decide between linkz and ABC. To me, we can lynch the miller now and tomorrow, pending night action reveals, ABC or another candidate; Or we can lynch the alternative ABC (or another) now, and think about linkz tomorrow. I do feel it is very necessary to take out a miller now before it's too dangerous, but I also don't want to fall for some troll mod setup either.



TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

 

You're pissed off? You have no idea how discouraging it is that you and Heph keep pushing the same bullshit. It's a fucking partial roleclaim. I haven't ever said I'm vanilla or power, and that is why the rule didn't apply. But I've been dropping hints all damned day as to my full role, and anyone that's actually been reading my posts should have figured it out. I think your both much better players to be such bad town, so I'm left with the impression of scum feigning ignorance.

Push my lynch all you want, but you're not getting off with the simple "oh, wow two millers after all how should I have known" defense. You've already proven you have no case against me based on my posts or interaction with others.

You're resorting to flattery now!

I don't quite remember how you reacted to the question about having another power on Day One sooooo I'm gonna check back (not now though). Up until then though I'm not unvoting.

Actually it's an insult, but if you want to take it as flattery than so be it.

I can save you the trouble. I ignored hat's question, and I already explained why. At the time I thought I was the only miller, thought miller was in itself a counter to my role, so I didn't want to let scum know which I was.



Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

 

You're pissed off? You have no idea how discouraging it is that you and Heph keep pushing the same bullshit. It's a fucking partial roleclaim. I haven't ever said I'm vanilla or power, and that is why the rule didn't apply. But I've been dropping hints all damned day as to my full role, and anyone that's actually been reading my posts should have figured it out. I think your both much better players to be such bad town, so I'm left with the impression of scum feigning ignorance.

Push my lynch all you want, but you're not getting off with the simple "oh, wow two millers after all how should I have known" defense. You've already proven you have no case against me based on my posts or interaction with others.

You're resorting to flattery now!

I don't quite remember how you reacted to the question about having another power on Day One sooooo I'm gonna check back (not now though). Up until then though I'm not unvoting.

Actually it's an insult, but if you want to take it as flattery than so be it.

I can save you the trouble. I ignored hat's question, and I already explained why. At the time I thought I was the only miller, thought miller was in itself a counter to my role, so I didn't want to let scum know which I was.

I've figured what you are! You're a godfather-miller and scanning you results in a paradox blowing up the whole town.



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Just a random thought here...

hatmoza role's really is a bitch slap to the town's face. Not only does he scan guilty, potentially resulting in a cop revealing himself for nothing but then when the town lynches the poor bastard they run the chance of loosing one of their own.

That's just mean.



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lol, Ultra-Paranoid Gunowner/Bombmaker. If visited by anyone you kill all town.



I think we have a good chance with abc, on top of which I think we have a good chance of preventing a kill and hopefully getting a read by the cop. I'm going to trust that Linkz knows what he's doing for at least another night. Hopefully we can force an extra day out of successful doc/scan/lynch. I think these are good odds. With that, I'm going to start looking at the people who are contributing far less than others, starting with ABC.

(can't believe I'm following a Radish vote lol)

vote: ABC

PS: I know some of you have schedules and take offense to being called lurkers (looking at you vette). So I'll just assume that you all reply with "fuck you I have a life outside vgc". Thank you for your cooperation. :D



Votals

On Players

Linkz: heph, abc, baal, nen, ff, TOS

Nen: linkz, ff, prof, abc

abc: radish, prof


By Players

heph: linkz, linkz

abc: linkz, nen

baal: linkz

nen: linkz

ff: linkz, nen

linkz: nen

prof: nen, abc

radish: abc

TOS: linkz

Time limit: linkz


With 10 players it takes 6 for a majority. With the current spread it takes 5 to lynch. 4 votes are needed for a time limit.



Vote : Timelimit



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theprof00 said:
I think we have a good chance with abc, on top of which I think we have a good chance of preventing a kill and hopefully getting a read by the cop. I'm going to trust that Linkz knows what he's doing for at least another night. Hopefully we can force an extra day out of successful doc/scan/lynch. I think these are good odds. With that, I'm going to start looking at the people who are contributing far less than others, starting with ABC.

(can't believe I'm following a Radish vote lol)

vote: ABC

PS: I know some of you have schedules and take offense to being called lurkers (looking at you vette). So I'll just assume that you all reply with "fuck you I have a life outside vgc". Thank you for your cooperation. :D

Wow calling me out on something that is complete bullshit, as I have never taken offense to being called a lurker.  So fuck you and have a nice day.

 

As for the game, getting rid of the miller to me is more important as it frees up time for better dicussion. 

Vote: Linkz