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A Bad Clown on 27 September 2011

If linkz doesn't get lynched today it's a good idea for someone to track him, if there's a tracker in the game. I doubt we have a lie detector, but if we do their power should still work. A miller themself scans guilty, but that doesn't mean statements do, right?



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Wonktonodi on 27 September 2011

Votals

On Players

Linkz: heph, abc, baal, nen, ff, TOS

Nen: linkz, ff, prof, abc

abc: radish


By Players

heph: linkz, linkz

abc: linkz, nen

baal: linkz

nen: linkz

ff: linkz, nen

linkz: nen

prof: nen

radish: abc

TOS: linkz

Time limit: linkz


With 10 players it takes 6 for a majority. With the current spread it takes 5 to lynch. 4 votes are needed for a time limit.



Final-Fan on 27 September 2011
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
Final-Fan said:
Ugh did this day seriously just lose BOTH its serious lynch candidates?

afraid?

I'd say it sounds relieved. I was pretty sure there was more than just 2 lynch candidates.

Plus, I don't understand what the problem is. I grilled nen pretty hard, and now I'm not so worried about him. I'd say that's a victory. I still don't know what to do about Linkz, sadly (more frustrating than sad).

All we have to do now is move onto someone else, whoever that someone else might be. I've heard some good ideas tossed around. We could also stick with Linkz, just to settle everything once and for all, or we could look at ABC, who is another good option.

Afraid?  Afraid of what?  I don't even understand how that makes sense. 

As for relieved, that would imply that not only am I scum but at least one of Linkz and nen are also scum, which you said you don't think. 

In reality, I'm just starting to get tired of how long the day is lasting.  I guess Heph seems like an alright target, and people have talked about lynching ABC, but neither of them seems to have as much against them as nen or Linkz did. 



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Final-Fan on 27 September 2011
TruckOSaurus said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:

And I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself that I received no penalty(though Wonk could have lied to me in PMs and it still would be unknown given the final votals day one) because I didn't break the rules. I am a miller, but claiming that is like a townie claiming they scan innocent. It's not a roleclaim. It's beyond me how people haven't figured that out already.

Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

Quoting myself because I wanna add to what I said and make an appeal to the rest of the town to consider lynching Linkzmax since the day is starting to drag on (yesterday got way fewer posts than previous days).

What really gets to me is the fact that Linkz has modified his version of what his roleclaim implied. At first, Linkz said that Wonk told him he would suffer no penalty (Linkz suggested it was either because Wonk reacted to the loophole it created or because he got lucky) but now Linkz has changed his story to: "Claiming Miller isn't a real roleclaim, that's why I didn't lose my vote).

I'm guessing he went for this angle since the other one was met with doubts by some players.

I have to say, this stinks to me as well. 

Linkz, claiming townie wouldn't be a roleclaim?  That's what you're saying? 



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Hephaestos on 27 September 2011
Final-Fan said:
TruckOSaurus said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:

And I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself that I received no penalty(though Wonk could have lied to me in PMs and it still would be unknown given the final votals day one) because I didn't break the rules. I am a miller, but claiming that is like a townie claiming they scan innocent. It's not a roleclaim. It's beyond me how people haven't figured that out already.

Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

Quoting myself because I wanna add to what I said and make an appeal to the rest of the town to consider lynching Linkzmax since the day is starting to drag on (yesterday got way fewer posts than previous days).

What really gets to me is the fact that Linkz has modified his version of what his roleclaim implied. At first, Linkz said that Wonk told him he would suffer no penalty (Linkz suggested it was either because Wonk reacted to the loophole it created or because he got lucky) but now Linkz has changed his story to: "Claiming Miller isn't a real roleclaim, that's why I didn't lose my vote).

I'm guessing he went for this angle since the other one was met with doubts by some players.

I have to say, this stinks to me as well. 

Linkz, claiming townie wouldn't be a roleclaim?  That's what you're saying? 

read the first post of the queue, it's linkz himself who said that. Trucks says he's shifting his story.

Moreover, wonk wouldn't lie in a PM, he'd give a non answer instead (maybe, maybe not). Actually linkz's statement kind of contradicts itself with the wonk part and the roleclaime part ^^



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Hephaestos on 27 September 2011
Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
Final-Fan said:
Ugh did this day seriously just lose BOTH its serious lynch candidates?

afraid?

I'd say it sounds relieved. I was pretty sure there was more than just 2 lynch candidates.

Plus, I don't understand what the problem is. I grilled nen pretty hard, and now I'm not so worried about him. I'd say that's a victory. I still don't know what to do about Linkz, sadly (more frustrating than sad).

All we have to do now is move onto someone else, whoever that someone else might be. I've heard some good ideas tossed around. We could also stick with Linkz, just to settle everything once and for all, or we could look at ABC, who is another good option.

Afraid?  Afraid of what?  I don't even understand how that makes sense. 

As for relieved, that would imply that not only am I scum but at least one of Linkz and nen are also scum, which you said you don't think. 

In reality, I'm just starting to get tired of how long the day is lasting.  I guess Heph seems like an alright target, and people have talked about lynching ABC, but neither of them seems to have as much against them as nen or Linkz did. 

afraid that the wind would start going your way. But that was a taunt, which didn't take ^^.



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Baalzamon on 27 September 2011

You know, one almost gets the feeling we would be best off just to get rid of Linkz, so we can talk about something else, rather than him continuing to suck up all of our attention.

It does not make sense to me at all why a simple miller is trying to grab the attention of everybody in the game. He should be trying to divert it, so we have the potential to kill a mafia member. Maybe he feels his life is less important than us losing a potential power role though, I have no clue.



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Linkzmax on 27 September 2011
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:

And I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself that I received no penalty(though Wonk could have lied to me in PMs and it still would be unknown given the final votals day one) because I didn't break the rules. I am a miller, but claiming that is like a townie claiming they scan innocent. It's not a roleclaim. It's beyond me how people haven't figured that out already.


Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

 

You're pissed off? You have no idea how discouraging it is that you and Heph keep pushing the same bullshit. It's a fucking partial roleclaim. I haven't ever said I'm vanilla or power, and that is why the rule didn't apply. But I've been dropping hints all damned day as to my full role, and anyone that's actually been reading my posts should have figured it out. I think your both much better players to be such bad town, so I'm left with the impression of scum feigning ignorance.

Push my lynch all you want, but you're not getting off with the simple "oh, wow two millers after all how should I have known" defense. You've already proven you have no case against me based on my posts or interaction with others.



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Linkzmax on 27 September 2011
Final-Fan said:
TruckOSaurus said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:

And I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself that I received no penalty(though Wonk could have lied to me in PMs and it still would be unknown given the final votals day one) because I didn't break the rules. I am a miller, but claiming that is like a townie claiming they scan innocent. It's not a roleclaim. It's beyond me how people haven't figured that out already.

Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

Quoting myself because I wanna add to what I said and make an appeal to the rest of the town to consider lynching Linkzmax since the day is starting to drag on (yesterday got way fewer posts than previous days).

What really gets to me is the fact that Linkz has modified his version of what his roleclaim implied. At first, Linkz said that Wonk told him he would suffer no penalty (Linkz suggested it was either because Wonk reacted to the loophole it created or because he got lucky) but now Linkz has changed his story to: "Claiming Miller isn't a real roleclaim, that's why I didn't lose my vote).

I'm guessing he went for this angle since the other one was met with doubts by some players.

I have to say, this stinks to me as well. 

Linkz, claiming townie wouldn't be a roleclaim?  That's what you're saying? 

Yes. Claiming townie/pro-town/town/etc. isn't a roleclaim. It's an alignment claim and suggest inno scanning as well. Claiming vanilla is a roleclaim, though that's still partial as one could be vanilla mafia.

For me miller is akin to claiming to have a limited use power. It says nothing about what type of power the role is.(if any in the case of a miller claim)



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TruckOSaurus on 27 September 2011
Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Now you're just playing with words (and pissing me off in the process). Tell me what did your ROLE PM say? Miller? Then you fucking roleclaimed when you said "I am a Miller."

 

You're pissed off? You have no idea how discouraging it is that you and Heph keep pushing the same bullshit. It's a fucking partial roleclaim. I haven't ever said I'm vanilla or power, and that is why the rule didn't apply. But I've been dropping hints all damned day as to my full role, and anyone that's actually been reading my posts should have figured it out. I think your both much better players to be such bad town, so I'm left with the impression of scum feigning ignorance.

Push my lynch all you want, but you're not getting off with the simple "oh, wow two millers after all how should I have known" defense. You've already proven you have no case against me based on my posts or interaction with others.

You're resorting to flattery now!

I don't quite remember how you reacted to the question about having another power on Day One sooooo I'm gonna check back (not now though). Up until then though I'm not unvoting.



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