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Baalzamon said:
My thoughts:

1.) I think we are taking far too many guesses in regards to the rod. I have no clue whether or not it is indeed a part of the game, and what it does, but taking absolutely wild guesses as to what it does really does us no good.

2.) Not quite sure of what to think about hatmoza being a miller bomb, yet the killer not dying. It could very well be percentage based, as was mentioned, but he could also have been blocked, or something else funky going on.

3.) Also in regards to hatmoza being a miller, has there ever been a game in which there are 2 millers with so few people? Really makes me wonder about Linkz role claim. Obviously nothing is impossible in this game, we just have to remember that perhaps Linkz tried fooling us and it didn't work out so swell considering a miller died on the first night.

well ive never heard of a miller counterclaim O.o

But I think you suspiciously deny the credibility of the mind control ability. I really would not call it "wild" .



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I started rereading the thread and got the first page working for a bit on my phone. From the flavor it looks like whoever killed Hatmoza has a staff, and the beggining flavor earlier said it might have mind controling powers. I'm sort of leaning towards truckosaurus if there is a mind controller. This post though by linkz bothers me

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4231973

"I am Chloe Frazer, town miller. It was first said by hat and I later confirmed it, did you miss it because of the apparent 404s(I've had no issues, but I'm not questioning the existence) or just rushing to catch up?"

Hatmoza was a miller, so does that mean linkz was lying?



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TruckOSaurus said:
I sure hope hatmoza's bomb power wasn't percentage based because I absolutely hate those.
I also hope this isn't Wonk penalizing him for a soft-claim because of his "I don't like that you used bomb as an example" comment to Heph.

As for the wild rod theories, I'll have to get back to them tomorrow, I'm too tired to figure out what the hell happened.


Another person calling it wild? Weren't you the one that found it in the OP>!>>?

While I think it's too improbable to waste time on discussin, I don't find it a wild idea. Let's wait for Linkz and see what he says.



since hat is dead and his role confirmed I will explain further, supersaint variation of bomb, I wasn't going to call Flynn a supersaint though.



I'm also really suspicious of Linkz due to there being a flipped miller already, but I'm not yet convinced that he's the best lynch the town can come up with.

I'm with Baal that (IMO) speculation about the rod doesn't have enough meat to it to justify any decision-making, so there's not much point dwelling on it. To me, the way it was portrayed in this morning's flavor does NOT support the "mind control tool" view.

I would also be upset to learn that hatmoza's bomb power got canceled for the comment TOS mentions. But it's just as likely it was blocked or negated somehow, or even only applied to being lynched (which he wasn't). A miller lynch-bomb would really have been detrimental to a town, which points to either a weak mafia or a lot of town power roles.



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Now I'm not sure which are more suspicious, people calling it wild or people thinking it makes sense.



nen-suer said:
Linkzmax said:

As I said, "I guess you were answering prof, but it seems like you took my words and switched them to your perspective, and threw the middle line in for originality." The way you doubted my claim seemed as if it wasn't genuine, but created to look good.

Could you elaborate on why millers are bad?

Town vanillas don't have any useful abilities and its usually a role a scum can hide behind. Shall we lynch all vanilla claims?

I hate how you disappear when I ask time-sensitive questions. Your posts, if genuine, would lead me to believe you're more sure that I'm scum than hat is. Your original vote post lacked conviction and you haven't done or said anything further to push his lynch. Yet you now say it's even, which you at least had to do to justify the fact that your vote hasn't switched.

Don't worry I'll get to your recent laughable accusation in due time.

 

It was way past midnight when i made my last post..so i went to bed

we went over this before and i'm reminding you again of the diffrence of our time zones. 

 

And i was right about suspecting hat after he suddenly changed his stance on characters and alignments (who would have thought he was a miller bomb)

 

As for why millers are bad (and i cant belive your asking a question like this)

Unlike normal tonwies millers show up guilty if investigated

so how do we verify ur claim ? we just have to take your word for it ?

its not like you have an ability to prove your telling the truth or do u).

And like i said earlier millers exists when the mafia is at a disadvantage

so its safe to assume  everyone knows they are no good.

 

And now i'm off to bed.

 

The time-sensitive bit was in regards to you not responding to my "how sure of hat being mafia" question quick enough for my tastes. The last time I tried trapping you with questions about the doc fakeclaim, you disappeared.

Unlike normal scum, Godfathers, Spies, some Serial Killers, etc. show up innocent if investigated. Counters to roles make for a good setup. Mafia does not have to be underpowered(compared to town power) for counters to exist.

The claim is mostly unverifiable,(I already joked about a Hobo or Lie Detctor confirming me, but they are true examples) but I'm the same as anyone else that claims town and hasn't been confirmed. Don't rely on powers so much and actually hunt some scum. From my eyes you're 0 for 2. After my interaction with radish before deadline I'm more inclined to thinking he's town than scum, so if you're town then you're doing horrible. I still don't think you are though.



About the bomb situation; I just researched the "super saint" bomb, and it looks like it only activates on the person that hammered them, but nothing happened since it was a night-kill

About the rod; I don't really know what to think, but I don't think that it's actually going to play a major part in the game tbh



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theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I sure hope hatmoza's bomb power wasn't percentage based because I absolutely hate those.
I also hope this isn't Wonk penalizing him for a soft-claim because of his "I don't like that you used bomb as an example" comment to Heph.

As for the wild rod theories, I'll have to get back to them tomorrow, I'm too tired to figure out what the hell happened.


Another person calling it wild? Weren't you the one that found it in the OP>!>>?

While I think it's too improbable to waste time on discussin, I don't find it a wild idea. Let's wait for Linkz and see what he says.

Are you asking me about the flavor? I already chimed in last night with my take. I do think the idea that bodies/roles are being switched is far-fetched, since I know I wasn't any type of bomb and I'm still a miller, so there wasn't any partial or complete transfer of role. Unless someone actually claims to be affected, I think it's just fluff. I imagine we all look like strangers to each other, until reverted to our true selves.



I assumed that since the characters would otherwise recognise eachother, this plot device with the rod was needed to add some sense



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