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theprof00 said:
It's also interesting that he was the one who asked for the explanation.

What's even worst is that he didn't even respond after I explained my thoughts although I replied only a couple minutes after he queried about it.



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I did not see that at all. I seriously doubt that someone "became the Rod" because that really doesn't make any sense.

I will share the thing I saw that could be interesting but probably not important: Sully might not have answered because he was switched with Rika before the murder; therefore, (according to this hypothesis,) Rika is out there somewhere and Sully is not.



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Should I vote now? There's not too long left in the game, and I don't want my vote not to be counted in case someone is bordering on a lynch.



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theprof00 said:
It's also interesting that he was the one who asked for the explanation.


I was only interested because I felt Trucks was somewhat threatened by me. I just wanted to see how far he would go cast suspicion on me. But his story was backed by proof, and I found it somewhat sound from a non biased point of view. A load of crap but believable had I not known it was false.

So yeah, I wanted to see if he would fabricate some crazy story to have the town rally against me, and my initial feel for him fearing me has vanished and all is good.

... and yeah, I still think you're scum btw.



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theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
Warning: this is off-topic from the current discussion.

Did anyone notice anything interesting in regarding to the opening flavor?

I'd prefer to point out my suspicion sometime later on, when it may be more helpful with analyzing, but I don't want to go down with the idea either. Can someone else verify that they're seeing what I'm seeing? It has to do with one of the sentences in the flavor.
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be hidden.. if you know what I'm talking about, please say "I see it".
If nobody sees it, well, I'll probably have to give it away by the end of day.

I reread it and I saw something, don't know if it's the same thing as what you saw. What I noticed would be linked to a possible role in the game and it would make me wary of hatmoza.

I just read that you explained it...oh well

To this above post, I would say, "Yes, and very much yes".

Now I also wonder what FF was thinking, because I also realized once people started chiming in with negatives, that the only people who might say yes are mafia and the person with the power. Mafia to pretend, and the person with the role to explain. This makes me think that ff is maybe 50/50 chance of mafia, and you possibly the role.

However, a lot of what I've been thinking is that Hat is this role, and I was hoping to bring it up at a later time so that he might get too confident and reveal something. This would explain his flip-flopping. I've heard of a variation of mafia where players switch during the night, but I don't want to sidetrack the game with crazy theories like these. I'd say it's a possibility, but I really wanted to hear something more conclusive, or at least have someone else have something to look out for.

 

And @ Heph

Yes the stone is broken, but someone might have "become the rod" so to speak.

 

Anyway, let's not get sidetracked by this whole thing. I wanted this to be something to look at later, and now it's not that, so there's really no use talking about it anymore.


@bolded

I like this theory, and if you ever fall and you are revealed to be town -counter to my current belief- I'll lean on this post for future assistance.

I understand from it that you set your OP question as a trap. Those who answer yes are scum according to you because they want to give the illusion of attempting to scum hunt therfore fabricate a story.

Well, that's pretty darn close to my "searching for the actors" attitude I carry in mafia games. And I like it.

One question though. You only list F-F as a suspect ... Trucks is the only one who gave a blatant "yes" ... Why no mention of suspecting him?



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A Bad Clown said:

Should I vote now? There's not too long left in the game, and I don't want my vote not to be counted in case someone is bordering on a lynch.

Vote now if there's someone you want to see lynched, unless it would create a tie that would default to no lynch (unless you want no lynch or want to prevent the other guy's lynch). 



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Final-Fan said:
I did not see that at all. I seriously doubt that someone "became the Rod" because that really doesn't make any sense.

I will share the thing I saw that could be interesting but probably not important: Sully might not have answered because he was switched with Rika before the murder; therefore, (according to this hypothesis,) Rika is out there somewhere and Sully is not.

It was in quotes because it wasn't literal >_>

I simply mean that someone could have the power of the rod. Otherwise, what's the point of the fluff? Something happened and everyone forgot who they were. Why did the rod need to be able to control minds? It's actually not that rare of a rolel; It's the role to make someone do what you want. IIRC we've had that role once, and several times we've had similar ones that "steal" roles for a night.

Now, as far as your idea that sully is switched with Rika, then what do you think about that? Does it tell you anything?



Plus, I don't need a magical rod to be a svengali ... I'm quite naturally talented at leading lynches.



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hatmoza said:


@bolded

I like this theory, and if you ever fall and you are revealed to be town -counter to my current belief- I'll lean on this post for future assistance.

I understand from it that you set your OP question as a trap. Those who answer yes are scum according to you because they want to give the illusion of attempting to scum hunt therfore fabricate a story.

Well, that's pretty darn close to my "searching for the actors" attitude I carry in mafia games. And I like it.

One question though. You only list F-F as a suspect ... Trucks is the only one who gave a blatant "yes" ... Why no mention of suspecting him?

I'm offended that you don't remember me creditting my first gambit to you.

But this was not a gambit. It was something I thought was worthy of a look into that then so happened to become a multi-faceted piece of evidence.

And I didn't suspect him because if I'm right about it, everything you've said this game falls in line with it. Plus, IMO Trucks is the only trustworthy person in this game so far aside from Heph...but there's a big gap in trust between those top two.



theprof00 said:
hatmoza said:


@bolded

I like this theory, and if you ever fall and you are revealed to be town -counter to my current belief- I'll lean on this post for future assistance.

I understand from it that you set your OP question as a trap. Those who answer yes are scum according to you because they want to give the illusion of attempting to scum hunt therfore fabricate a story.

Well, that's pretty darn close to my "searching for the actors" attitude I carry in mafia games. And I like it.

One question though. You only list F-F as a suspect ... Trucks is the only one who gave a blatant "yes" ... Why no mention of suspecting him?

I'm offended that you don't remember me creditting my first gambit to you.

But this was not a gambit. It was something I thought was worthy of a look into that then so happened to become a multi-faceted piece of evidence.

And I didn't suspect him because if I'm right about it, everything you've said this game falls in line with it. Plus, IMO Trucks is the only trustworthy person in this game so far aside from Heph...but there's a big gap in trust between those top two.

O_o Really? You're right, I don't remember.

Don't log off, I have something I want to share with everyone! may take 10 minutes to complete. But it's a tactic similar to "Votals", except it provides more insight with less work. And it's one of my personal aids that I never shared with anyone before :3



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