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Final-Fan on 21 September 2011

Answer to prof: There are two possibilities that spring to mind upon rereading the flavor. One I don't think would make that big a difference; the other definitely would, if it's true. I'm far from certain it is, though.



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hatmoza on 21 September 2011
Final-Fan said:
radishhead said:
Final-Fan said:
I changed my mind.
Vote radishhead.

Because you think I'm Mafia, or because you think I'm a threat to the town?

I decided I wanted to do a first day lynch, didn't want it to be Linkz, thought you had a decent likelihood of being scum, and didn't think we were very likely to get a better candidate in the noose before the deadline. 

Now hat and nen-suer are both in the running, though.  I don't feel like lynching hat.  Nen-suer ... I could go for.  I'm not convinced, but he's fairly likely also IMO.  I remember him going on and on about percentages before, but I don't recall if he was scum or town at the time. 


How many times do I have to say that lynching me is out of the question. That's the 3rd time someone said something like, "I don't feel like lynching hat." No one has control over that matter. I can't get lynched because I won't allow it. And no, I'm not hinting that I'm unlynchable.



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hatmoza on 21 September 2011

Also, I want a first day lynch, but I don't want it to be Radish. I like prof as a first day lynch.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

theprof00 on 21 September 2011
nen-suer said:
theprof00 said:
nen-suer said:

........considering our relatively small number i never thought of the possibility of a third party.

When you asked about the interesting point in the OP did u mean there is a SK ?

And he is the one who killed Raja and stole the staff ?

It wasn't really that. I figured the "there is a killer, find them" was just broken English. Though, it's possibly related.

But again, this is a non-issue. What I'm really wondering is why you haven't considered SK. It's worse that you're linking players to others when you don't even know what you're looking for.

Like i said with our small number having a SK is a very small probability .

SK is not something wold  usualy consider unless something suggest it like an extra kill at night.

And i thought that linking & grouping players is what mafia games are all about >_>

Its not like i linked them for no reason.


Ha, I was actually going to correct myself, but the 404s kept me out.

You did in fact explain why, but I just wanted more insight. There's always limited SKs, for example among several other third party scum. Although, your persistance makes me think that you really simply never considered it. You can consider my question answered.



A Bad Clown on 21 September 2011
theprof00 said:
A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:
A Bad Clown said:

Two votes on Radish? What could Radish have done besides claim he's someone with killing power day one who has a bunch of random abilities while not making sense like on round 30?

You forgot threatening to demonstrate his powers on the villagers


And that he was going to take someone out with him...

yeah, Radish doesn't seem to be playing differently from his normal townie self...even with the no lynch vote after he's become a lynch candidate.

We'll have to wait for you to catch up with the game by tomorrow as there's only 11 some odd hours left, but what do you think of other players?


Radish is being...well...radish.

I don't know nen-suer in general, and I don't know how Kantor plays mafia.

So far Heph is still playing like he normally does, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

I haven't seen anything yet but did Hatmoza do his usual "Do something shocking!" day one thing?

Linkz role claimed pretty quick, but I'm not sure who he's supposed to be.

Trucks I don't know, there's only been 14 pages of discussion and he hasn't posted too much.

I can't get to page one, who else is in this game?



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A Bad Clown on 21 September 2011

On an unrelated note, I think there's always some kind of 3rd party in every mafia game. My first guess would be some kind of serial killer, then a survivor.



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Hephaestos on 21 September 2011
theprof00 said:
Warning: this is off-topic from the current discussion.

Did anyone notice anything interesting in regarding to the opening flavor?

I'd prefer to point out my suspicion sometime later on, when it may be more helpful with analyzing, but I don't want to go down with the idea either. Can someone else verify that they're seeing what I'm seeing? It has to do with one of the sentences in the flavor.
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be hidden.. if you know what I'm talking about, please say "I see it".
If nobody sees it, well, I'll probably have to give it away by the end of day.


Sully? otherwise no.



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Linkzmax on 21 September 2011
nen-suer said:
Linkzmax said:

I did explain what I don't like from you already, so it's not just a random feeling with no backing. I do admit it isn't much, but it's enough for me to want to lynch you over hat or radish.

So its because i doubted your claim ? Thats even worse >_>

Millers are bad and they only  appear when the mafia are in a disadvantage against the town (either in numbers or abilities)

when someone role claim a miller you lunch that player asap when the town can afford a misslynch because  millers dont have any useful abilities and its usually a role a scum can hide behind.

I'm 75% sure your mafia not only because of your role claim, but for the opinions you voiced regarding Hat, radish and me

If radish or Hat turn-up mafia that will only increase my suspicion.

As I said, "I guess you were answering prof, but it seems like you took my words and switched them to your perspective, and threw the middle line in for originality." The way you doubted my claim seemed as if it wasn't genuine, but created to look good.

Could you elaborate on why millers are bad?

Town vanillas don't have any useful abilities and its usually a role a scum can hide behind. Shall we lynch all vanilla claims?

I hate how you disappear when I ask time-sensitive questions. Your posts, if genuine, would lead me to believe you're more sure that I'm scum than hat is. Your original vote post lacked conviction and you haven't done or said anything further to push his lynch. Yet you now say it's even, which you at least had to do to justify the fact that your vote hasn't switched.

Don't worry I'll get to your recent laughable accusation in due time.



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Vetteman94 on 21 September 2011
theprof00 said:
Warning: this is off-topic from the current discussion.

Did anyone notice anything interesting in regarding to the opening flavor?

I'd prefer to point out my suspicion sometime later on, when it may be more helpful with analyzing, but I don't want to go down with the idea either. Can someone else verify that they're seeing what I'm seeing? It has to do with one of the sentences in the flavor.
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be hidden.. if you know what I'm talking about, please say "I see it".
If nobody sees it, well, I'll probably have to give it away by the end of day.


No,  but I have never been one to put too much faith into what is said in the flavor anyway.  Other than what the real facts are, like who died and what their role was.



Hephaestos on 21 September 2011
A Bad Clown said:


Radish is being...well...radish.

I don't know nen-suer in general, and I don't know how Kantor plays mafia.

So far Heph is still playing like he normally does, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

I haven't seen anything yet but did Hatmoza do his usual "Do something shocking!" day one thing?

Linkz role claimed pretty quick, but I'm not sure who he's supposed to be.

Trucks I don't know, there's only been 14 pages of discussion and he hasn't posted too much.

I can't get to page one, who else is in this game?


the players

1. Linkzmax
2. TruckOSaurus
3. theprof00
4. TheEvilBanana ABC
5. Radishhead
6. Final-Fan
7. hatmoza
8. nen-suer
9. Kantor
10. Ballzamon
11. Vetteman94
12. Hephaestos



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