I happily concede that they are different models. For the record, I misunderstood what you meant by "on top", I can now see that the horizontal line on the blue Obama bus near the top of the side contrasts with the paneling going up to the roof (on the sides) in vertical lines on the black one.

I imagine the Clinton one looks so different because it's 20 years older

As a hilarious footnote, according to your source it looks like they were bought from an American company (Tennessee family owned business).

Final-Fan said: I happily concede that they are different models. For the record, I misunderstood what you meant by "on top", I can now see that the horizontal line on the blue Obama bus near the top of the side contrasts with the paneling going up to the roof (on the sides) in vertical lines on the black one. I imagine the Clinton one looks so different because it's 20 years older As a hilarious footnote, according to your source it looks like they were bought from an American company (Tennessee family owned business).

Yep, yet another reason why it's a stupid nonissue.

omg kasz... its essentially the same thing and in fact the new buses are just the better choice.

Apparently he never meant to dispute it was the same bus company, only to dispute what he thought you said, that the buses were actually identical. 

The reason has less to do with a Candian made bus - that yes other Presidents also used - and the theme of Obama's bus tour ...Creating jobs in America.. which means making things here again.. His number one campain promise 4 yrs ago was Jobs and the Economy.. he's failed ... President Reagan took a worse economy over from President Jimmy Carter back in 1981.. Unemployment was 12% back then! Things were much worse ( inflation, interest rates, etc ) .. Reagan took over in 1981 and within 17 months ( 1 yrs and a half ) this country (USA) had the largest growth seen since WW2 ! .. Now Obama is still blaming Bush ( and he's had almost 4 yrs and even spent nearly a trillion in bailouts )  because unlike Reagan.. Obama has no 4yr degree  in economics like Reagan..So n Obama has no real clue of how economies work and relies solely on advisors.. Reagan did all this and more with a Democratic Congress and he was a Republican President .. One difference though is everyone liked Reagan - even the Demorats because he worked with them and compromised ( Obama didnt want to compromise on the debt ceiling - Republicans wanted to raise it 1 trillion - Obama wanted to raise the limit by 2 trillion so it wouldnt hit the ceiling before election time - making him look bad ), even Reagan's critics  saw he was genuine and everyone wanted to see him win.. He helped America win.. by the time Reagan left office he had unemployment down to 7% ( It was 12% when he took office ).... Right now America is has been stuck at 10% since Bush left.. Obama proved a bailout CANT create jobs.. Reagan did NO Bailouts.. he cut taxes for everyone.. he made improvements that let businesses thrive and create jobs.. he also helped create Medicare.. ALot of people dont know Reagan was a long time Democrat who went Replublican.. he was also the 1st advocate of a privately run Social Security.. way ahead of his time.. Bailouts dont create jobs Mr Obama.. innovation does.. which is why During Clintons term so many jobs were created .. at the time computers took off.. it was the newest and biggest innovation to come - the growth of the internet and everyone buying a Windows computer .. most internet businesses took off during the Clinton years.. Ebay.. etc.. really grew

Indeed, by saying they were the same bus/same company when they didn't look anything alike makes the story uncredible without a source... since they didn't really look alike at all.

To say they're the same would basically mean it could of been any company since really they were pretty different.

Again, if its a canadian company that made the bus.. maybe the same company other Presidents used for their bus is less relevant.. What is relevant is 4 yrs ago Obama got elected #1 reason to FIX the economy and CREATE jobs in America.. So even though it may be the same bus... he is on a BUS TOUR with the THEME "Creating jobs in AMERICA" .. that alone doesnt sit well with Americans because he is 4 YEARS LATE... and only worried about getting re-elected.. then factor in "his plan to create jobs in America" riding in a foreign made bus.. that stings more..  When other Presidents rode around in those busses the THEME WASNT CREATING JOBS IN AMERICA... and Americans have been fed up with Obama.. 40% approval rating for like a year.. so this reason although trivial, is just another reason.. AND Right now the man has been on VACATION at Martha's Vineyards while the country is falling apart..

I would note that my first post basically said that.

Though I would say that a few of them probably did ride around with a theme of "Creating jobs".   It's a popular theme.

I think however that it's things like yelling at him about the bus... rather then the doing nothing part.

If he could speak honsetly he would probably say the reason he is doing nothing now, is because he spent all of his "political capital" on Healthcare Reform and the bus rally was a way to try and build more up to spend.

He said of the Healthcare bill "Political capital is made to be spent" however the truth is, he probably blew his money far to quickly.

Luckily for him, his 2012 opponents aren't exactly Scrooge McDuck.

He has told lie after lie, and broken most of his campaign promises.. In 2006 Senator Obama said "raising the debt ceiling is a sign of failed leadership".. now that he's President though its a different story and raising the debt ceiling as much as he wants is just dandy... First he blamed the Republicans for not Approving his debt ceiling raise... but the truth is he wanted to raise it too much without showing the GOVT would lower its spending ( and thus be able to afford the raise of the ceiling ).. Essentially what happened is Republicans wanted to raise the ceiling, but make sure debt and spending was cut because its clear the USA just cant keep spending money it doesnt have anymore.  Obama and the democrats wanted to raise the ceiling a TRILLION more then the Republicans because Obama was afraid if we hit the debt ceiling again before election time it would obviously make him look bad.. since he has already spent too much.  I work in healthcare and I'll say Obama's Healthcare reform is also a big lie..  Insurance companies make more money then ever because of his "reform" and needy people who really need insurance ( as this reform was made for ) will only get insurance for about 1 year.. most people still can't get insurance.. The one good thing about the reform bill  is Insurance companies can't drop you for being sick or deny you coverage.. but  besides that - so many apsects of the bill are crooked and put money in the pockets of people who are already rich ! .. Each year Obama has spent 1 trillion more then Bush ( who he criticized for spending too much ).. so effectively Obama has doubled the debt in half the time Bush did.. Obama promised to take us out of the war and he started another war in Afghanastan.. so we're paying for 2 wars we can't afford... As an American I feel most Americans feel more and more that its time to QUIT trying to police the world by ourselves.. its time to get out of other people business and start fixing things at home in the USA.. and the dollar is not looking good.. He bailed out General Motors ( and a bunch of companies with a 900 Billion dollar bailout )... Bailouts do not make jobs.. they fix things for a few yrs because he put money in their banks.. otherwise he gave GM 50 billion.. then the crooks at General Motors  put a commercial on TV "we payed it all back.. " ..If anyone cares about the 
TRUTH.. here it is ...  They (GM ) were given 50 billion.. Obama's Car Czar ( a GOVT official put in charge of running GM by Obama )  then told GM to declare bankruptcy - which would protect them under US Law - and allow them to keep most of the 50 billion they were given...and thus GM only had to pay back 12 billion.. So GM pocketed 38 billion dollars !! AND then they say they paid it all back - yeah all 12 billion out of 50..  So then they show a profit - OF COURSE THEY DO ! They just pocketed 50 billion.. and they can move the money around and show a profit for yrs.. Ford showed a profit without any bailouts..  Now we have to listen to Obama try and sound like a good responsible American with his eloquent propaganda speeches telling us "the rich need pay their fair share of taxes"  after just a year ago he let GENERAL Electric not pay any taxes on their 5.1 billion dollar profit for the year.. Of course they own MSNBC.. So MSNBC pretty much kisses Obama's butt  ( MSNBC is more biased for Obama then Fox is against him ) .. anyone who watches MSNBC and beleives it .. would be thinking he's a ok President..

He is also still trying to blame Bush some for his failures.. 4 yrs later and the economy is not better and the country is much worse in debt.. Meanwhile.. President Ronald Reagan ( in 1981 ) took over a much worse economy.. unemployment was 12% and inflation was worse.. Reagan fixed the economy in 17 months !  In 17 months the USA saw the biggest growth since WW2... and Reagan did no bailouts whatsoever.. So for Obama this is 40+ months later and no improvment - not only that - but its worse..  As a moderate ( i can vote democrat or republican ) I hope the Republicans dont win this election because I want the world and the country to see Obama's failure.. Obama has screwed up things so bad that NO PERSON can hope to fix his mess .. So it might as well be Obama who faces his own mess...so whoever is elected next will have it 10 times worse then Obama did from Bush.. I dont want any Republicans to get the blame when America's debt has gone from 8.5  Trillion to 14 Trillion under Obama.. his wreckless spending is Worse then any President EVER !

Could you consider using paragraphs?