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i've never seen riots in a GTA game



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RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:

"It doesn't matter what grosses the most. The important thing is the actual breakdown of popular movies." "If there's two popular non-violent movies for every The Dark Knight"

you still don't really have a point here for all the movies that have come out over the summer and maybe in general for this year, last year etc in terms of genre distribution action movies, horror movies... violent movies in general... all together dominate the movie industry period... 

"Sports Central 2 isn't even a game."

my mistake i actually mean't kinect sports

" Journey, the Team Ico Collection and Ratchet & Clank certainly won't be big"

i agree for certain that they won't outsell games like CoD or battlefield and i never said they would i was simply making the point that they are games with a lower level of violence that will be available

funny enough now that i think on it when you count in xbl and psn releases the proportion of violent games to non-violent games isn't as bad as people make it out to be its just that games like CoD and battlefield tend to garner more attention and those games are over shadowed, that however, doesn't mean that they are unavailable just that people tend disregard them

" if it weren't for Nintendo, then the situation would look even worse."

aside from zelda ss which allows people to slash at monsters with a sword what else is nintendo releasing on its home console over the holidays that will be "big"?

I don't pay much attention to movies, so if you can provide some data, it would be much appreciated. I just can't see violent blockbusters outnumber comedies, animated movies etc.

XBLA and PSN games can't be blockbusters and therefore don't matter when it comes to the public perception of the video games medium. For the average less informed person (and that's the one that matters when it comes to putting blame on video games, because they are much more numerous than the more informed ones and also more inclined to believe unfounded claims, simply because they don't know any better) those games do not exist, only the ones that get exposure through TV commercials and other general media. I hope you are able to grasp this basic concept that availability alone doesn't cut it.

Nintendo will also release Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land during the holiday season. Your qualifier (home console only) makes no sense, because we are talking about the medium as a whole. Also, cartoon and fantasy violence can be found in comedy movies and animated ones, so Zelda's violence really is of a different kind than the one found in games like Call of Duty. But a handful of Nintendo blockbusters per year aren't enough to counteract the general direction the video games industry is taking anyway.

"I just can't see violent blockbusters outnumber comedies, animated movies etc."

this explains it "I don't pay much attention to movies" but no i don't have data its just readily apparent for anyone who does


"Nintendo will also release Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D"

ok so 3 titles including the one where the guy goes around slashing monsters... both microsoft and sony are pushing more non-violent games over the holidays as i already mentioned i'll revise to exclude remakes and psn/xbl titles ok so just off the top of my head :

microsoft : kinect sports 2, dance central 2, forza 4,  sesame street etc

sony : singstar back to the 80s, rachet and clank all 4 one, eyepet 2, the medievil move game etc 

and thats just what i remember



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i've never seen riots in a GTA game


actually though gta san andreas had riots at the end of the game :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677sFuas9BQ



o_O.Q said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i've never seen riots in a GTA game


actually though gta san andreas had riots at the end of the game :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677sFuas9BQ

strange i don't remember that.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
o_O.Q said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i've never seen riots in a GTA game


actually though gta san andreas had riots at the end of the game :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677sFuas9BQ

strange i don't remember that.


well the city was in chaos for the period of time between the 2 last missions not really for an extented period of time



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o_O.Q said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
o_O.Q said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i've never seen riots in a GTA game


actually though gta san andreas had riots at the end of the game :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677sFuas9BQ

strange i don't remember that.


well the city was in chaos for the period of time between the 2 last missions not really for an extented period of time


well i was likely to busy running them over to notice



RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:
RolStoppable said:

I don't pay much attention to movies, so if you can provide some data, it would be much appreciated. I just can't see violent blockbusters outnumber comedies, animated movies etc.

XBLA and PSN games can't be blockbusters and therefore don't matter when it comes to the public perception of the video games medium. For the average less informed person (and that's the one that matters when it comes to putting blame on video games, because they are much more numerous than the more informed ones and also more inclined to believe unfounded claims, simply because they don't know any better) those games do not exist, only the ones that get exposure through TV commercials and other general media. I hope you are able to grasp this basic concept that availability alone doesn't cut it.

Nintendo will also release Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land during the holiday season. Your qualifier (home console only) makes no sense, because we are talking about the medium as a whole. Also, cartoon and fantasy violence can be found in comedy movies and animated ones, so Zelda's violence really is of a different kind than the one found in games like Call of Duty. But a handful of Nintendo blockbusters per year aren't enough to counteract the general direction the video games industry is taking anyway.

"I just can't see violent blockbusters outnumber comedies, animated movies etc."

this explains it "I don't pay much attention to movies" but no i don't have data its just readily apparent for anyone who does


"Nintendo will also release Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D"

ok so 3 titles including the one where the guy goes around slashing monsters... both microsoft and sony are pushing more non-violent games over the holidays as i already mentioned i'll revise to exclude remakes and psn/xbl titles ok so just off the top of my head :

microsoft : kinect sports 2, dance central 2, forza 4,  sesame street etc

sony : singstar back to the 80s, rachet and clank all 4 one, eyepet 2, the medievil move game

At this point it's fairly obvious that you are not really interested in the discussion at hand, but merely look for opportunities to disagree with something that I said.

I was trying to help you to understand why video games are continually blamed for crimes, that's all. But you make it into a console war thing even though I already said that what Nintendo does isn't of significance. Neither is what Microsoft and Sony do.

well when you imply stuff like how microsoft and sony are only pushing violent games and nintendo is the only one doing something to change the trend, i'll come straight out and tell you i disagree and why... 



RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:
RolStoppable said:

At this point it's fairly obvious that you are not really interested in the discussion at hand, but merely look for opportunities to disagree with something that I said.

I was trying to help you to understand why video games are continually blamed for crimes, that's all. But you make it into a console war thing even though I already said that what Nintendo does isn't of significance. Neither is what Microsoft and Sony do.

well when you imply stuff like how microsoft and sony are only pushing violent games and nintendo is the only one doing something to change the trend, i'll come straight out and tell you i disagree and why... 

I never implied that. I was talking about the industry as a whole and the game I mentioned the most was Call of Duty, because that happens to be the biggest violent title. Likewise, Nintendo on the whole is the best example for the opposite direction, because they don't really make anything that warrants an M rating or PEGI 16/18 and their games happen to take the top spots in sales for non-violent video games.

"if it weren't for Nintendo, then the situation would look even worse"

nintendo isn't even releasing close to as many non-violent games as ms or sony seperately this holiday season




Was the cops name by any chance Francis McCreary?



RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:
RolStoppable said:

I never implied that. I was talking about the industry as a whole and the game I mentioned the most was Call of Duty, because that happens to be the biggest violent title. Likewise, Nintendo on the whole is the best example for the opposite direction, because they don't really make anything that warrants an M rating or PEGI 16/18 and their games happen to take the top spots in sales for non-violent video games.

"if it weren't for Nintendo, then the situation would look even worse"

nintendo isn't even releasing close to as many non-violent games as ms or sony seperately this holiday season

Which once again comes down to the important difference between significance and availability. Microsoft and Sony may have more games, but Nintendo has without a doubt the more significant ones.

Actually, Nintendo has more games than Microsoft and Sony, but there is no reason to list them all, because I only focus on the ones of significance. Why that is I have already explained in previous posts.

"Nintendo has without a doubt the more significant ones."

that can't be argued they have higher sales afterall... and that comes down to consumer choice not necessarily the effort applied

"Nintendo has more games than Microsoft and Sony"

well as the company that was in gaming longer i wouldn't expect it to be any other way