Nope.

Marriages receive additional benefits because they are responsible for education and upbringing of future generations.

If lack of gay marriages is discrimination than so is existance of men/women only toilets.

If some people can marry, then everyone should be able to marry.

Bullshit.

I'm getting married in 4 years, when I get married, I will not have kids.  I will still get marriage benefits.

Gay couples who adopt, or who otherwise have kids (Having kids in a straight relationship, getting a divorce them living with a gay person) do not get marriage benefits.

If marriage benefits are for raising kids, then they should be stripped from married couples and instead be given to people... who have kids.

Which again, does include gay people.

and to follow your logic... I guess if lack of gay marriage isn't discrimination white and black only toliets aren't discrimination... right?

Edit: And to head off the "You could have kids!" arguement.  Nobody goes through infertility testing before they get there marriage benefits even though there are a number of men and women who can't have children.... and no woman loses her marriage benefits once she hits menopause.

i see two solutions to the issue ... either would be fine with me.

A) recognize that marriage is both a religious and civil institution. from the religious perspective each religion should be able to believe whatever they want. from the civil perceptive all of our citizens are given the right to be treated as equals. therefore write a law that guarantees religious institutes the ability to refuse to acknowledge or perform gay marriage if that is their wish but also guarantees gay couples to be recognized as marriage by the laws of the USA (or where ever you live)

B) recognize that marriage is fundamentally a religious institution not a civil institution. as such, all laws concerning marriage would be stricken from the books under separation of church and state.


the "civil union" bullshit as an alternative to marriage is complete crap. "separate but equal" was a terrible idea with respect to people of different race and it is a terrible idea with respect to homosexuality as well.

I was tempted to reply to twisted arguments but knowing you I know it would lead nowhere so instead I'm going to say this:

Next year, I'm marrying a guy and there's nothing you can do about it!

Why even have civil unions?

This is a question I asked durring the Canadian "gay marriage" non-debate and no one could answer it.

In Canada (pretty much) all rights that a married couple have were given to couples living in common-law relationships in the 1990s. All the rights and responsibilities surrounding children are maintained regardless of your marital status, and if the government needs to give "Tax Breaks" to people who could have children that is an indication that tax rates are simply too high for everyone. About the only act that may happen when people get married that the government should care about is a legal name-change; which is hardly enough to justify any real involvement in marriage from the government.

No real reason, marriage contributes nothing to a society without children.

Though people would bitch otherwise.

Though I'd get rid of all tax breaks, for everything.

Marriage is a construct of the church and should be treated as such.

It should have no bearing on what the government does. The government should recognize all co-habitation agreements between two consenting adults. Because of this, the government should only act as needed as an arbiter between two people's compact in case of annulment (e.g. divorce). Outside of that, the government should not be involved one iota. Church should be free to denounce homosexual marriage as it desires (since the church is the one to fashion the idea of marriage in the first place), but such statements should have no bearing on its legalities.

Personally don't give a shit what any law document or any so called "god" says. If 2 people feel that should get married they can and should be able to.

sodom and Gomorrah is how god looks at it.

sodom and Gomorrah cause we are god like is how the Republicans look at it.

Dem's are mostly on the fence

Marcus D Jackson says man has no right telling any man or woman wht they can or should be doing with there body or who ever they choose to be with as we will all find out whts right when the time comes if there's a greater being so keep doing wht it is you do best as i will not look down on any man or women for no reason or wht this world and its people thinks of who ever for wht ever thank you cause like my fellow man i have not the right to judge noone.