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Wonktonodi said:
if there was only one person lying both days it can't be heph, trucks, or myself. Tucks as I explained in an earlier post. Heph because today can't be explained by the other 4 claims. Now I know I am not lying but to show you guys that someone else was lying. If I had lied yesterday and everyone else was telling the truth then heph would have been blocked by baal or prof. Since they both targeted me last night I wouldn't have been able to kill heph.
Now since I didn't lie about targeting baal night 0 and prof night 1. Lets find the liar(s) and mafia.

He's right, there was only one kill.  We targeted Heph; there was one kill. We targeted wonk; there was one kill.

if one of us were rb, wonk can't be the killer.



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Wonktonodi said:

You missed it big time.

I see that now.



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Wonktonodi said:
if there was only one person lying both days it can't be heph, trucks, or myself. Tucks as I explained in an earlier post. Heph because today can't be explained by the other 4 claims. Now I know I am not lying but to show you guys that someone else was lying. If I had lied yesterday and everyone else was telling the truth then heph would have been blocked by baal or prof. Since they both targeted me last night I wouldn't have been able to kill heph.
Now since I didn't lie about targeting baal night 0 and prof night 1. Lets find the liar(s) and mafia.

This didn't make sense to me at first, but after writing it down in my  notebook and looking at it for a considerable amount of time, it does.  Not only does it make sense, but it proves my innocence.

Whether or not you guys believe me, I was WAY too scared to even attempt to lie on night 1.  If Heph also didn't lie on night 1, then that means whoever would have killed Trucks is Prof or you.

If Prof was our only liar on night 1, and he targeted Trucks, then this means I am the roleblocker.  The reasoning is Heph targeted FF, and I would be the only person who targeted Heph.  This would leave townie and doc to be Trucks and you.

So for night 2, if Prof was our night 1 kill, we can also tell he lied night 2.  This means that Prof targeted Heph.  Since Trucks also targeted Heph, he cannot be the doctor.  This means Trucks is the townie, and you are the doctor.  Me being the roleblcoker simply means I blocked your doctor skill last night.

Now, if we assume you were our liar on night 1, then either Prof or I must be the roleblocker.  Since prof and I both targeted you last night, then the rolebocker would have had to target you last night, which means you as a mafia wouldn't have gotten a kill.  So this option simply does not work.

Both of these situations assume that only 1 person was lying on both night 1 and night 2.  That being the case, Prof is the mafia, I am the roleblocker, you are the doctor, and Trucks is the townie.

Vote: Prof

Edit: Where I say night 1, I mean night 0, and night 2 means night 1.



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Baalzamon said:
Wonktonodi said:
if there was only one person lying both days it can't be heph, trucks, or myself. Tucks as I explained in an earlier post. Heph because today can't be explained by the other 4 claims. Now I know I am not lying but to show you guys that someone else was lying. If I had lied yesterday and everyone else was telling the truth then heph would have been blocked by baal or prof. Since they both targeted me last night I wouldn't have been able to kill heph.
Now since I didn't lie about targeting baal night 0 and prof night 1. Lets find the liar(s) and mafia.

This didn't make sense to me at first, but after writing it down in my  notebook and looking at it for a considerable amount of time, it does.  Not only does it make sense, but it proves my innocence.

Whether or not you guys believe me, I was WAY too scared to even attempt to lie on night 1.  If Heph also didn't lie on night 1, then that means whoever would have killed Trucks is Prof or you.

If Prof was our only liar on night 1, and he targeted Trucks, then this means I am the roleblocker.  The reasoning is Heph targeted FF, and I would be the only person who targeted Heph.  This would leave townie and doc to be Trucks and you.

So for night 2, if Prof was our night 1 kill, we can also tell he lied night 2.  This means that Prof targeted Heph.  Since Trucks also targeted Heph, he cannot be the doctor.  This means Trucks is the townie, and you are the doctor.  Me being the roleblcoker simply means I blocked your doctor skill last night.

Now, if we assume you were our liar on night 1, then either Prof or I must be the roleblocker.  Since prof and I both targeted you last night, then the rolebocker would have had to target you last night, which means you as a mafia wouldn't have gotten a kill.  So this option simply does not work.

Both of these situations assume that only 1 person was lying on both night 1 and night 2.  That being the case, Prof is the mafia, I am the roleblocker, you are the doctor, and Trucks is the townie.

Vote: Prof

Edit: Where I say night 1, I mean night 0, and night 2 means night 1.

if all the roles are as you say Heph would have killed someone last night. You can't have the roleblocker blocking the doc and only have one of the possible killers die.



Wonktonodi said:
Baalzamon said:
Wonktonodi said:
if there was only one person lying both days it can't be heph, trucks, or myself. Tucks as I explained in an earlier post. Heph because today can't be explained by the other 4 claims. Now I know I am not lying but to show you guys that someone else was lying. If I had lied yesterday and everyone else was telling the truth then heph would have been blocked by baal or prof. Since they both targeted me last night I wouldn't have been able to kill heph.
Now since I didn't lie about targeting baal night 0 and prof night 1. Lets find the liar(s) and mafia.

This didn't make sense to me at first, but after writing it down in my  notebook and looking at it for a considerable amount of time, it does.  Not only does it make sense, but it proves my innocence.

Whether or not you guys believe me, I was WAY too scared to even attempt to lie on night 1.  If Heph also didn't lie on night 1, then that means whoever would have killed Trucks is Prof or you.

If Prof was our only liar on night 1, and he targeted Trucks, then this means I am the roleblocker.  The reasoning is Heph targeted FF, and I would be the only person who targeted Heph.  This would leave townie and doc to be Trucks and you.

So for night 2, if Prof was our night 1 kill, we can also tell he lied night 2.  This means that Prof targeted Heph.  Since Trucks also targeted Heph, he cannot be the doctor.  This means Trucks is the townie, and you are the doctor.  Me being the roleblcoker simply means I blocked your doctor skill last night.

Now, if we assume you were our liar on night 1, then either Prof or I must be the roleblocker.  Since prof and I both targeted you last night, then the rolebocker would have had to target you last night, which means you as a mafia wouldn't have gotten a kill.  So this option simply does not work.

Both of these situations assume that only 1 person was lying on both night 1 and night 2.  That being the case, Prof is the mafia, I am the roleblocker, you are the doctor, and Trucks is the townie.

Vote: Prof

Edit: Where I say night 1, I mean night 0, and night 2 means night 1.

if all the roles are as you say Heph would have killed someone last night. You can't have the roleblocker blocking the doc and only have one of the possible killers die.

I completely missed that.

That being the case, you can't guarantee he would have killed somebody.  He could have chosen to target noboby last night.

If he didn't choose to target nobody, then we have what could be a complete mess.  We have more than one person lying about their actions.



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I think we can safely say that Heph lied on Day One.

He said he targeted Final-Fan but he didn't fake die and nobody else targeted FF that night so no protection.



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TruckOSaurus said:
I think we can safely say that Heph lied on Day One.

He said he targeted Final-Fan but he didn't fake die and nobody else targeted FF that night so no protection.


this is what I am thinking is most likely as well. And as I said in an earlier post if heph was the only one who lied about night 0 Baal is the mafia. This would also mean only one person lied on any given day, the killer.



Wonktonodi said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I think we can safely say that Heph lied on Day One.

He said he targeted Final-Fan but he didn't fake die and nobody else targeted FF that night so no protection.


this is what I am thinking is most likely as well. And as I said in an earlier post if heph was the only one who lied about night 0 Baal is the mafia. This would also mean only one person lied on any given day, the killer.

Well there's still the possibility that both killers targeted me on Night 0. Prompting two people to lie on Day One.



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My logic was flawed before, as Wonk proved. I honestly don't know what to think anymore. If Heph lied about day 1, and did indeed target Trucks, then that makes absolutely no sense with today's claims.

I'm beginning to think very strongly that more than 1 person lied about night 0.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Wonktonodi said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I think we can safely say that Heph lied on Day One.

He said he targeted Final-Fan but he didn't fake die and nobody else targeted FF that night so no protection.


this is what I am thinking is most likely as well. And as I said in an earlier post if heph was the only one who lied about night 0 Baal is the mafia. This would also mean only one person lied on any given day, the killer.

Well there's still the possibility that both killers targeted me on Night 0. Prompting two people to lie on Day One.

there wil always be more possibiliites and with more people lying there are even more possiblilities.  Heck you could have been targeted by 4 people and roleblocked the doc.

However I'm thinking only heph lied day one and only baal is lying today. I am very sure you are the RB unless so many others lied about who they targeted.

I am pretty sure of prof as well since it would take muitple lies on a single day for him to be the killer as well. 

Baal could be the killer with only 2 lies. Heph yesterday and him today.

in fact

Vote: Baal