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Do you support the two-state solution in California?

Yes - Two states are better than one! 27 39.13%
 
No - Two states is the wrong idea, period. 19 27.54%
 
No - The counties picked ... 0 0%
 
Just two states? Make it three! 9 13.04%
 
I just want to see the answer! 14 20.29%
 
Total:69

Here I thought this was about California seceeding from the US. Well honestly I don't think splitting California in two is a good idea at all. Mind you I've only visited California once but I think just because the political split is vast doesn't mean you split the state in two. I mean British Columbia where I live is split the majority of the Province is Conservative but Vancouver area is strongly Liberal/NDP. However I would not consider Vancouver becoming another Province simply because Vancouverites disagree with the rest of the province politically.

In a democracy you work things out the two or three or four political parties have to work together. Seceeding every time you have a split just is immature and undemocratic. Honestly Republicans and Democrats in California who want this split need to grow up. They need to realize you don't always have to agree with everyone and getting rid of anyone you disagree with won't accomplish anything.

Look at Quebec as a Prime example. Vastly unique compared to the rest of Canada. Extremist lunatics have been trying to seperate it from Canada for decades. But this year we see that despite our differences it is beneficial for all sides that the country remain united. It would be stupid to break countries and states up along political lines.

All sides should work together and the competition makes the state/province/country stronger. Rather then splitting everything up every time you get a difference of political opinion!



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Joelcool7 said:

Here I thought this was about California seceeding from the US. Well honestly I don't think splitting California in two is a good idea at all. Mind you I've only visited California once but I think just because the political split is vast doesn't mean you split the state in two. I mean British Columbia where I live is split the majority of the Province is Conservative but Vancouver area is strongly Liberal/NDP. However I would not consider Vancouver becoming another Province simply because Vancouverites disagree with the rest of the province politically.

In a democracy you work things out the two or three or four political parties have to work together. Seceeding every time you have a split just is immature and undemocratic. Honestly Republicans and Democrats in California who want this split need to grow up. They need to realize you don't always have to agree with everyone and getting rid of anyone you disagree with won't accomplish anything.

Look at Quebec as a Prime example. Vastly unique compared to the rest of Canada. Extremist lunatics have been trying to seperate it from Canada for decades. But this year we see that despite our differences it is beneficial for all sides that the country remain united. It would be stupid to break countries and states up along political lines.

All sides should work together and the competition makes the state/province/country stronger. Rather then splitting everything up every time you get a difference of political opinion!

One thing I would point out to you is that The United States of America is a Republic.  The framers of the constitution intended it this way and it's even in our pledge of allegance.  While I would point out that our country has become more "Democratic" in the last century it was never intended to become such.  The biggest problem with a pure democracy is that it can become what is essentially "mob rule".  I would say the average American is not equipped to make important decisions regarding national issues, either because of a lack of education (on the issues of the day), interest, or otherwise.  A Republic is necessary for civility and balance.

I agree with you that splitting California isn't the solution though.  Helping to campaign for officials that represent your views most closely is the way to bring about positive change.



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Hah! What a laugh. Why not do that for every state? The the blue and red areas separate from one another. If the blue areas in a red state are small enough you can call them reservations. And vice-versa for the Blue states.



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