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How many vita games do you have in your library?

0-10 184 31.51%
 
11-20 109 18.66%
 
21-30 69 11.82%
 
30+ 215 36.82%
 
Total:577
Kresnik said:
Scisca said:

I'm calm

I really can't understand how you can put ports of old games that used to be top-of-the-line games with biggest budgets for their time and indies in the same bucket. These are two totally different things for me. Is Jak & Daxter Collection an indie game for you?

I know that would be my best bet, but I'm just gonna stick to the second best one - buying big games, thus doing my best to support devs making big games for Vita. That's why I plan to buy Batman next week and Spiderman... whenever I find a copy I'm not gonna be wasting this money on smaller games, cause that would impact my purchases of bigger games. My budget isn't unlimited and there are other things than just games to spend my money on I have to choose something and I choose to support big AAA games, cause I want more of them, not more of 5-10 times overpriced indies.


That's my point that you seem to be missing.  There's a middle ground between a title being "AAA" and being "indie".  Jak isn't AAA nor is it indie.  It's somewhere in between.  

It's a shame you feel that way about indies.  I can understand where you're coming from but personally, I think western third parties are terrible at making handheld titles.  Although there's good stuff mixed in there like Rayman & Need for Speed, the majority of it is more like rubbish ports of Spider Man; lifeless entries like Batman and filled-with-issues games like Assassin's Creed.  Personally, I don't find such titles much fun and would rather not support them unless they have a bit more effort put into them.

(Japanese third parties seem to be the only bigger publishers who understand what makes a handheld game good at put the time and effort needed into them).

Anyway, point being, indie games are hit and miss but the ones that hit get things really right, and I'm not going to ignore them just because they don't have enough of a budget for my liking.  I'd rather have fun playing a cheaply made game than have a rubbish time playing something with more money invested.

But, I don't think I'm going to change your mind about this, so I'll leave it there.


I am absolutely aware of the middle ground games like Unit 13, the golf or fishing games etc., I've written about them already, so I have no idea why you're assuming I'm missing some mythical point of yours.

My favourite Vita games are Western games, they also happen to be the bigger games (Uncharted, Killzone, ACIII:L being at the very top), so I want to support these games. There is no other way of getting more of what I want. I just don't really find most indies satisfying me. They aren't the reason I play games, they aren't the reason I bought my Vita for and that's not the direction I want Vita to follow. And if I find a good indie game I can always get it on PC for a fraction of the price they charge on Vita or wait for a major pricecut/PS+.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

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maybe i am the only one ,but some (indie?)Castlevania Remakes(sotn etc)or new stuff or ff tactics/chrono trigger HD would be more amazing for me than some pseudoAAA's



To change the subject:

How is Dynasty Warriors Next ? I´m super intrigued by Hyrule Worriors but don´t want to go in completely blind. Is Next a good entry point for the series or should I go with DW8 ?



To someone who only played dynasty warrior next and samurai warrior 3 before. I can only say that I find SW3 much more enjoyable compared to next. The move set and gameplay are mostly similar as are most of the warrior series as I heard. The number of modes also keep the game interesting. Especially the conquest mode or whatever it's called increased the replayability as you can choose your own path.

I was okay with most of the touch screen based mechanics. I find some of them fun even and a great addition. However that single touch screen feature ruined it all for me: the duels. They are excessively long especially when you're not equipped with the better equipments. I remember clashing with guan yu or even Lu bu for over 10 minutes! (At least it felt that way). Not really a pleasant experience as losing focus for even an instant will grant you death. While you have to hit them many times.

Otherwise, the game is pretty solid. They are no noticeable frame drops as far as I know (maybe a few here and there) and graphics are great. An excellent addition to the warrior series barring the horrid duels.





orniletter said:
To change the subject:

How is Dynasty Warriors Next ? I´m super intrigued by Hyrule Worriors but don´t want to go in completely blind. Is Next a good entry point for the series or should I go with DW8 ?


i never played DW games, I'm sure Hyrule Warriors is going to look nice when finished since Tecmo games look pretty good to me. The only game in that genre that I've played is Sengoku Basara and it's the kind of game I might pick up once in a while to play casually. You may want to rent one and see for yourself if it's the kind og game you'd see yourself playing often.



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FiveOVER said:


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I take that as a "try Dynasty Warriors 8 instead" .

 

Thanks !



rutea7 said:
orniletter said:
To change the subject:

How is Dynasty Warriors Next ? I´m super intrigued by Hyrule Worriors but don´t want to go in completely blind. Is Next a good entry point for the series or should I go with DW8 ?


i never played DW games, I'm sure Hyrule Warriors is going to look nice when finished since Tecmo games look pretty good to me. The only game in that genre that I've played is Sengoku Basara and it's the kind of game I might pick up once in a while to play casually. You may want to rent one and see for yourself if it's the kind og game you'd see yourself playing often.

...ah, right, there was a Sengoku Basara game on the Wii and PS3, right ?

 

I think I will go with DW8.

Thank you both.



Ignoring the western 3rd party support discussion since that's not going to happen...

I do have to say that I think people are a bit disillusioned about the western support the psp got. Go look at the psp game list here on Vg. Other than sports/racing games You'll find only a couple of big western third party games in the entire lifetime of the psp.

The difference is the PSP got Capcom, Square Enix and Konami support. Games like Metal Gear Solid titles , Monster Hunter titles , Final fantasy Crisis core, Type-0, Star Ocean titles, Dissidia: Final Fantasy , Kingdom hearts titles, Final Fantasy Tactics, Winning Eleven titles, Dissidia 012 , The 3rd Birthday, Yu-Gi-Oh! games, Castlevania titles , Silent Hill titles, Coded Arms etc.... These are all gone from the vita library.

Anyways, the problem I see with vita indies is variety, there are only so many 2D games I can handle and I say this as a fan of 2D puzzle platformers/scrollers/Metroidvania titles etc... Get Bastion, Torchlight 2, newer titles like Outlast or multiplatform releases of upcoming titles like Transistor and Secret Poncho on the vita. i release most of the titles I mentioned are Top down RPGs, but that's what I want :p



I know, Vita is getting great Japanese support but not from the "big guns", at least that's giving others an opportunity to shine and sell more. We can hope that in the future the bigger titles reach the Vita, meanwhile... I can't even afford all these games that are coming XD still playing catch up.



orniletter said:
rutea7 said:
orniletter said:
To change the subject:

How is Dynasty Warriors Next ? I´m super intrigued by Hyrule Worriors but don´t want to go in completely blind. Is Next a good entry point for the series or should I go with DW8 ?


i never played DW games, I'm sure Hyrule Warriors is going to look nice when finished since Tecmo games look pretty good to me. The only game in that genre that I've played is Sengoku Basara and it's the kind of game I might pick up once in a while to play casually. You may want to rent one and see for yourself if it's the kind og game you'd see yourself playing often.

...ah, right, there was a Sengoku Basara game on the Wii and PS3, right ?

 

I think I will go with DW8.

Thank you both.


If you do, don't forget to buy the Xtreme Legends expansion when it comes out (well, if you like vanilla DW8 first). They're usually like the base game but on steroids, with lots of extra challenges and crazy powerful weapons to collect, as well as new characters (I think DW8XL has 5 new choices). If you ever hear someone say that there's no skill involved in musou games, tell them to play some of the 10-star challenges on nightmare!

Just make sure you buy it on PS3 if you can, the XL and Empires expansions don't seem to come out on X360. Although, you could wait for the Vita and PS4 versions, which have both DW8 and XL included. Vita has cross-save as well I believe. You'd have to wait until the new year though