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Wonktonodi on 09 May 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

theprof00 said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4014861



2. there is always going to be skill and work, but that doesn't make them free of luck. I'm never going to agree with you on this one.

3. the story is that I'm sad because of him thinking it's not a vanilla game. The fact you are trying to turn a more detailed explanation into a contradiction is troubling. You are smart enough to know the difference, yet your are trying to use is as evidence. But in case you don't here is a simple lesson. Lets take a look at your point one.

1. You are saying not true to me agreeing with you that him saying something doesn't make it so. That is a contradiction. First you said it. Then you said it wasn't when I agreed with it. Something is then something is not.

Now for an example on more detailed explanation. What I gave was some possibilities that seemed likely to me that would be the case for heph to say what he said and thus make me sad. That was giving you more detail. Now if your that's not true was directed at this instead of the first part of the post it would still be wrong in addition to making no sense. You can say they are bad reasons to be sad, or unlikely possibilities but calling them wrong and disagreeing makes no sense because they are the reasons that I felt the way I did.

So since it's hard for me to think that you are stupid I'm thinking you're more likely scum

See.

You think I'm scum because I argued with you. I was right and you were scum. That logically makes me scum? Just because you don't understand my point, it doesn't mean I'm scum. For all the jabbing you take at my style and "tells", I got you fair and square.

and I was right and you were scum :P see it wasn't imbalance it was just scum going after scum and letting heph live

But I could've and would've been town saying the same thing. You were just covering your own ass :P

no I bet if you were town you wouldn't have made as many poor argements :D



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theprof00 on 09 May 2011
Wonktonodi said:

no I bet if you were town you wouldn't have made as many poor argements :D

*notices unwinnable arguement happening despite being right*

Ah, I see. I must've misinterpreted you. 

 

 

PS: That's what you're getting from now on. Maybe I'll add some color to it in the future because you're going to be seeing it a lot.



A Bad Clown on 09 May 2011

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theprof00 on 09 May 2011
A Bad Clown said:

Are Quicktopics private by default or do I have to set them private?

you have to set them to private.

EDIT: DuH



Stefl1504 on 09 May 2011

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=128393&page=1&str=486547074#2



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Final-Fan on 09 May 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:


ask FF what happens if you ignore me too much though :P


haha, I'll take that into consideration. Still, just remember that no matter what side I'm on, I'm not going to argue with you. :P So don't go thinking that I'm mafia next game simply because I'm not doing it.

I don't care if FF (because he would be the one to do it) says that he doesn't like my style because it's all a setup for when I'm mafia. Mafia is about consistency, and if it's too hard to predict an element, and becomes too much focused on luck (of how you're going to take being argued with), then to maximize the skill, I should simply remove that random aspect completely. Nothing wrong with playing to win. :P

So ... you're saying you hide the times you're mafia by acting mafia-like ALL THE TIME. 

And then you complained that I was always suspecting you of being mafia? 

Or have we already had this conversation? 



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theprof00 on 09 May 2011
Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:


ask FF what happens if you ignore me too much though :P


haha, I'll take that into consideration. Still, just remember that no matter what side I'm on, I'm not going to argue with you. :P So don't go thinking that I'm mafia next game simply because I'm not doing it.

I don't care if FF (because he would be the one to do it) says that he doesn't like my style because it's all a setup for when I'm mafia. Mafia is about consistency, and if it's too hard to predict an element, and becomes too much focused on luck (of how you're going to take being argued with), then to maximize the skill, I should simply remove that random aspect completely. Nothing wrong with playing to win. :P

So ... you're saying you hide the times you're mafia by acting mafia-like ALL THE TIME. 

And then you complained that I was always suspecting you of being mafia? 

Or have we already had this conversation? 

I actually don't do that. I'm saying I will from now on, based on this revelation.

EDIT: I also don't think I act like mafia all the time, but I've learned not to argue with you either. So, maybe? I guess I just haven't addressed it yet. :P

EDIT2: Also, there is nothing wrong with avoiding something that is going to get you killed. Nothing scummy about that. I just meant that YOU specfically would call it that. 



Hephaestos on 09 May 2011
Wonktonodi said:

and I was right and you were scum :P see it wasn't imbalance it was just scum going after scum and letting heph live

yeah that's the good side of the actor role.... since you can't vote, you also can't push too hard... and thus don't piss off the scum :-p

( i honestly did try to make myself a target though... as i was the least usefull role... untill the hugues roleclaim of course)



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Final-Fan on 10 May 2011
theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

So ... you're saying you hide the times you're mafia by acting mafia-like ALL THE TIME. 
And then you complained that I was always suspecting you of being mafia? 
Or have we already had this conversation? 

I actually don't do that. I'm saying I will from now on, based on this revelation.

I didn't have time to say this before, but now that I'm back: 

It seems to me that mafia play is based on the fact that you are on a faction and trying to avoid town discovery of that faction.  I don't know how you plan to play as if you are on a faction when in fact you are not. 



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Final-Fan on 10 May 2011
theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:

haha, I'll take that into consideration. Still, just remember that no matter what side I'm on, I'm not going to argue with you. :P So don't go thinking that I'm mafia next game simply because I'm not doing it.

I don't care if FF (because he would be the one to do it) says that he doesn't like my style because it's all a setup for when I'm mafia. Mafia is about consistency, and if it's too hard to predict an element, and becomes too much focused on luck (of how you're going to take being argued with), then to maximize the skill, I should simply remove that random aspect completely. Nothing wrong with playing to win. :P

So ... you're saying you hide the times you're mafia by acting mafia-like ALL THE TIME. 

And then you complained that I was always suspecting you of being mafia? 

Or have we already had this conversation? 

I actually don't do that. I'm saying I will from now on, based on this revelation.

EDIT: I also don't think I act like mafia all the time, but I've learned not to argue with you either. So, maybe? I guess I just haven't addressed it yet. :P

EDIT2: Also, there is nothing wrong with avoiding something that is going to get you killed. Nothing scummy about that. I just meant that YOU specfically would call it that. 

You said I didn't like your style and you didn't care because it was a setup for when you are mafia. 

1.  Me "not liking your style" seems to refer to the earlier games we played when you complained that I was always on your nuts. 

2.  This contradicts your claim that you are NOT talking about past behavior, because then how could what you claim is a description of your future behavior already be disliked by me? 

3.  "It's all a setup for when I'm mafia" and your talk about consistency implies that you plan to consistently act like you do when mafia, even when you're town, instead of what most people do, which is try to act like town all the time, even when they are mafia.  This is supported by the fact that you basically confirmed exactly this in response to my post. 

4.  Your second edit is pretty ... cryptic.  I would call it what? 



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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
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I have the most epic death scene ever in VGChartz Mafia.  Thanks WordsofWisdom!