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Wonktonodi on 09 May 2011
theprof00 said:

Here's the next post:

Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:


You doubting vanilla makes me sad though.

Why does that make you sad?
I believe you said that complexity makes it a harder decision to lynch on day 1. 

So, you are sad that a day 1 won't happen?


for a few reasons, him not thinking vanilla and having a role probably meas he got a non vanilla role and thus would be able to say that it isn't.

because nonvanilla games have much more luck

and because if more people have strong roles I might just get taken out again  victim of an improper balance to the force :P

1. that's very doubtful. Just because someone *implies* that they have a role doesn't make it so. Remember, mafia is a game about deception. There have been more than a few times where I have acted in a way to draw attention, and others do it too.

2. That's debateable. THe vanilla games we've been playing still had cops and docs, and they are the most influential roles, and completely luck based. (in a way) Keep in mind that roles such as watcher, tracker, etc don't ever see the whole picture.

3. Or maybe you'll get scanned? Or maybe protected like when hat bodyguarded you. I don't see why you're so "worried" about getting taken out.. If anything, the only thing you should be afraid of, as town, is a mafia kill, and that's in every game, not just powered up ones. And yes, I am implying that you're not town. I don't like your answers at all (specifically the last one, though). The first two show very superficial thought processes, almost like you came up with them on the fly.

unvote

vote: wonk

Before this post, you defended me. But I was right. I caught you. 

 

This embedded quote is also ironic.

and because if more people have strong roles "I might just get taken out again  victim of an improper balance to the force :P"

yet you now argue the game was balanced.

 

I told you. My lesson, my lesson from now on, is don't argue with wonk. I've learned the same thing about Trash, and FF. You just don't argue with them and they'll leave you alone. It doesn't matter if I'm right. Don't argue.


ask FF what happens if you ignore me too much though :P



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theprof00 on 09 May 2011

theprof00 said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4014861



2. there is always going to be skill and work, but that doesn't make them free of luck. I'm never going to agree with you on this one.

3. the story is that I'm sad because of him thinking it's not a vanilla game. The fact you are trying to turn a more detailed explanation into a contradiction is troubling. You are smart enough to know the difference, yet your are trying to use is as evidence. But in case you don't here is a simple lesson. Lets take a look at your point one.

1. You are saying not true to me agreeing with you that him saying something doesn't make it so. That is a contradiction. First you said it. Then you said it wasn't when I agreed with it. Something is then something is not.

Now for an example on more detailed explanation. What I gave was some possibilities that seemed likely to me that would be the case for heph to say what he said and thus make me sad. That was giving you more detail. Now if your that's not true was directed at this instead of the first part of the post it would still be wrong in addition to making no sense. You can say they are bad reasons to be sad, or unlikely possibilities but calling them wrong and disagreeing makes no sense because they are the reasons that I felt the way I did.

So since it's hard for me to think that you are stupid I'm thinking you're more likely scum

See.

You think I'm scum because I argued with you. I was right and you were scum. That logically makes me scum? Just because you don't understand my point, it doesn't mean I'm scum. For all the jabbing you take at my style and "tells", I got you fair and square.



theprof00 on 09 May 2011
Wonktonodi said:


ask FF what happens if you ignore me too much though :P


haha, I'll take that into consideration. Still, just remember that no matter what side I'm on, I'm not going to argue with you. :P So don't go thinking that I'm mafia next game simply because I'm not doing it.

I don't care if FF (because he would be the one to do it) says that he doesn't like my style because it's all a setup for when I'm mafia. Mafia is about consistency, and if it's too hard to predict an element, and becomes too much focused on luck (of how you're going to take being argued with), then to maximize the skill, I should simply remove that random aspect completely. Nothing wrong with playing to win. :P



A Bad Clown on 09 May 2011

Creating the new mafia thread, it's going to be basically super/unexpected roles so don't complain about it being unbalanced.



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19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
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19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
theprof00 on 09 May 2011
A Bad Clown said:

Creating the new mafia thread, it's going to be basically super/unexpected roles so don't complain about it being unbalanced.

As long as I'm told this before-hand, I can put less effort into the game and focus on simply having fun. 

It's not that I don't play to have fun. I'm a hardcore gamer. I play for the challenge.

Link the signup thread here.



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Wonktonodi on 09 May 2011
theprof00 said:

theprof00 said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4014861



2. there is always going to be skill and work, but that doesn't make them free of luck. I'm never going to agree with you on this one.

3. the story is that I'm sad because of him thinking it's not a vanilla game. The fact you are trying to turn a more detailed explanation into a contradiction is troubling. You are smart enough to know the difference, yet your are trying to use is as evidence. But in case you don't here is a simple lesson. Lets take a look at your point one.

1. You are saying not true to me agreeing with you that him saying something doesn't make it so. That is a contradiction. First you said it. Then you said it wasn't when I agreed with it. Something is then something is not.

Now for an example on more detailed explanation. What I gave was some possibilities that seemed likely to me that would be the case for heph to say what he said and thus make me sad. That was giving you more detail. Now if your that's not true was directed at this instead of the first part of the post it would still be wrong in addition to making no sense. You can say they are bad reasons to be sad, or unlikely possibilities but calling them wrong and disagreeing makes no sense because they are the reasons that I felt the way I did.

So since it's hard for me to think that you are stupid I'm thinking you're more likely scum

See.

You think I'm scum because I argued with you. I was right and you were scum. That logically makes me scum? Just because you don't understand my point, it doesn't mean I'm scum. For all the jabbing you take at my style and "tells", I got you fair and square.

and I was right and you were scum :P see it wasn't imbalance it was just scum going after scum and letting heph live



A Bad Clown on 09 May 2011
theprof00 said:
A Bad Clown said:

Creating the new mafia thread, it's going to be basically super/unexpected roles so don't complain about it being unbalanced.

As long as I'm told this before-hand, I can put less effort into the game and focus on simply having fun. 

It's not that I don't play to have fun. I'm a hardcore gamer. I play for the challenge.

Link the signup thread here.


I'm almost done, I'm putting some changes to make it a little more fun and less dependent on role claims.



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
theprof00 on 09 May 2011
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

theprof00 said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4014861



2. there is always going to be skill and work, but that doesn't make them free of luck. I'm never going to agree with you on this one.

3. the story is that I'm sad because of him thinking it's not a vanilla game. The fact you are trying to turn a more detailed explanation into a contradiction is troubling. You are smart enough to know the difference, yet your are trying to use is as evidence. But in case you don't here is a simple lesson. Lets take a look at your point one.

1. You are saying not true to me agreeing with you that him saying something doesn't make it so. That is a contradiction. First you said it. Then you said it wasn't when I agreed with it. Something is then something is not.

Now for an example on more detailed explanation. What I gave was some possibilities that seemed likely to me that would be the case for heph to say what he said and thus make me sad. That was giving you more detail. Now if your that's not true was directed at this instead of the first part of the post it would still be wrong in addition to making no sense. You can say they are bad reasons to be sad, or unlikely possibilities but calling them wrong and disagreeing makes no sense because they are the reasons that I felt the way I did.

So since it's hard for me to think that you are stupid I'm thinking you're more likely scum

See.

You think I'm scum because I argued with you. I was right and you were scum. That logically makes me scum? Just because you don't understand my point, it doesn't mean I'm scum. For all the jabbing you take at my style and "tells", I got you fair and square.

and I was right and you were scum :P see it wasn't imbalance it was just scum going after scum and letting heph live

But I could've and would've been town saying the same thing. You were just covering your own ass :P



TruckOSaurus on 09 May 2011
A Bad Clown said:

Creating the new mafia thread, it's going to be basically super/unexpected roles so don't complain about it being unbalanced.

Run it by your co-mod for balance ideas and comments.



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A Bad Clown on 09 May 2011

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=128393

 

It ate my post, new game



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*