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Hephaestos said:
Wonktonodi said:
Hephaestos said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

I'm up for whatever and my uncharted themed and Stargate SG1 themed game can wait


Need that stargate sg1 game! Dr. Jackson away!

didn't the actor wing a grammy for the episode in which he played a crazy version of himself?

Universe is so enoying... all the characters are antipathic to me besides Rush and Eli (though they make him side way too much against Rush).... All the other ones i want to shoot ^^

no idea about any awards


haven't watched universe yet only just recently watched SG1 on netflix and now only finishing up the first season of  atlantis


haha I did SG1 as a marathon too kindoff.

It was on french TV 12 years ago and I watched episodes from time to time, then left for 3 years, and when I came back I just took the first 7 seasons and did a marathon :p Atlantis had some potential... though they screwed the story at one point and basicaly dropped the ball on fixing it. Still the series are tied up to each other so there's continuity (If I recall, Atlantis S1 aired at the same time as SG1 last season no?) and the characters are likable.

Universe... had a great premise, but the characters are all egoistic asholes (even one of the only 2 I liked changed tune for season 2). The only one saving the show is Robert Carlyl.... now it's what? 2 episodes till the end and it doesn't feel like they prepared for it.


only had seen a few episodes between 1997 and 2007 when it was on myself. Now I've seen all 214 and the movies.

Atlatis started in 2004 so there was 3 years of overlap and 2 years where it was on it's own.



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theprof00 said:

so I played poorly eh? Worse than stefl and abc... ok.

I guess, I'm wrong? How? Nobody was pushing for me....I got everyone to vote for a LURKER over me. That's like, a last resort!

I just..don't..understand.

sorry hat.


I had pushed you day one. and was sure you were scum then. Didn't really push to hard for you day two for a few reasons. I was already sure you were scum and wanted to try to hunt for others since I new I was dead I wasn't afraid of doing anything. There wasn't too much enthusiasm when I mentioned you, linkz slightly but that was about it. Plus with the people we had lurking I didn't want the game to get that boring so fast.

Don't take too much credit for trash's lynch there were several who pushed for that and even then it never really had too many votes and could have flipped to someone else just before the end.



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

so I played poorly eh? Worse than stefl and abc... ok.

I guess, I'm wrong? How? Nobody was pushing for me....I got everyone to vote for a LURKER over me. That's like, a last resort!

I just..don't..understand.

sorry hat.


I had pushed you day one. and was sure you were scum then. Didn't really push to hard for you day two for a few reasons. I was already sure you were scum and wanted to try to hunt for others since I new I was dead I wasn't afraid of doing anything. There wasn't too much enthusiasm when I mentioned you, linkz slightly but that was about it. Plus with the people we had lurking I didn't want the game to get that boring so fast.

Don't take too much credit for trash's lynch there were several who pushed for that and even then it never really had too many votes and could have flipped to someone else just before the end.

yeah I didn't mean to take credit at all for that.

But I want to mention. How long would everyone have put me off for later? Because that was my goal, and lynching the lurker, despite everyone previously saying that it should be a last resort, happened before me. I wanted to tread that line, and I felt that I did.



theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

so I played poorly eh? Worse than stefl and abc... ok.

I guess, I'm wrong? How? Nobody was pushing for me....I got everyone to vote for a LURKER over me. That's like, a last resort!

I just..don't..understand.

sorry hat.


I had pushed you day one. and was sure you were scum then. Didn't really push to hard for you day two for a few reasons. I was already sure you were scum and wanted to try to hunt for others since I new I was dead I wasn't afraid of doing anything. There wasn't too much enthusiasm when I mentioned you, linkz slightly but that was about it. Plus with the people we had lurking I didn't want the game to get that boring so fast.

Don't take too much credit for trash's lynch there were several who pushed for that and even then it never really had too many votes and could have flipped to someone else just before the end.

yeah I didn't mean to take credit at all for that.

But I want to mention. How long would everyone have put me off for later? Because that was my goal, and lynching the lurker, despite everyone previously saying that it should be a last resort, happened before me. I wanted to tread that line, and I felt that I did.

Had we both lived I would have tried to have you lynched the next day. No idea on how long anyone else would wate.



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

so I played poorly eh? Worse than stefl and abc... ok.

I guess, I'm wrong? How? Nobody was pushing for me....I got everyone to vote for a LURKER over me. That's like, a last resort!

I just..don't..understand.

sorry hat.


I had pushed you day one. and was sure you were scum then. Didn't really push to hard for you day two for a few reasons. I was already sure you were scum and wanted to try to hunt for others since I new I was dead I wasn't afraid of doing anything. There wasn't too much enthusiasm when I mentioned you, linkz slightly but that was about it. Plus with the people we had lurking I didn't want the game to get that boring so fast.

Don't take too much credit for trash's lynch there were several who pushed for that and even then it never really had too many votes and could have flipped to someone else just before the end.

yeah I didn't mean to take credit at all for that.

But I want to mention. How long would everyone have put me off for later? Because that was my goal, and lynching the lurker, despite everyone previously saying that it should be a last resort, happened before me. I wanted to tread that line, and I felt that I did.

Had we both lived I would have tried to have you lynched the next day. No idea on how long anyone else would wate.

Yes, I understand, "the next day", but with suspicions on day 1, and no push on either day 1 or 2, do you really believe your conviction? IIRC stefl and ToS were next on the chopping block to the majority. It is the reason I called the game for town, because they were going to be lynched.

Additionally, a lot of my views and arguments were then carried over throughout the game, which lends credibility to my innocence. Baal was interrogated on day 3 over huge contradictions, which I was one of the first to put real pressure toward, Wonk, you were again brought into the spotlight over possibly being scum, etc, etc.



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theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

so I played poorly eh? Worse than stefl and abc... ok.

I guess, I'm wrong? How? Nobody was pushing for me....I got everyone to vote for a LURKER over me. That's like, a last resort!

I just..don't..understand.

sorry hat.


I had pushed you day one. and was sure you were scum then. Didn't really push to hard for you day two for a few reasons. I was already sure you were scum and wanted to try to hunt for others since I new I was dead I wasn't afraid of doing anything. There wasn't too much enthusiasm when I mentioned you, linkz slightly but that was about it. Plus with the people we had lurking I didn't want the game to get that boring so fast.

Don't take too much credit for trash's lynch there were several who pushed for that and even then it never really had too many votes and could have flipped to someone else just before the end.

yeah I didn't mean to take credit at all for that.

But I want to mention. How long would everyone have put me off for later? Because that was my goal, and lynching the lurker, despite everyone previously saying that it should be a last resort, happened before me. I wanted to tread that line, and I felt that I did.

Had we both lived I would have tried to have you lynched the next day. No idea on how long anyone else would wate.

Yes, I understand, "the next day", but with suspicions on day 1, and no push on either day 1 or 2, do you really believe your conviction? IIRC stefl and ToS were next on the chopping block to the majority. It is the reason I called the game for town, because they were going to be lynched.

Additionally, a lot of my views and arguments were then carried over throughout the game, which lends credibility to my innocence. Baal was interrogated on day 3 over huge contradictions, which I was one of the first to put real pressure toward, Wonk, you were again brought into the spotlight over possibly being scum, etc, etc.


I do believe them. I just learned things playing with you guys. Revenge voting gets looked down apon even when there are clear arguments, so day one I pushed you with arguments and not my vote.

Day 2 was a big game changer for me. I was going to die besides a slim possibility of a poison doc. I figured trying to get as much info out of as many people as possible was going to work more in my favore than trying to take you down. That and I wasn't even sure at that point if I wanted to help the town or the scum team.



IIRC I managed to push you away from your suspicions by suggesting that you were being used, and that the poison was used purposely to make you continue after your suspects with more intensity.

Also, one of the things you went after me for was:

"5. My issue isn't about the town lynching day 1. It's about your defence of linkz. I'll have to go back and look at it further though."

I was able to tell the Linkz had cleared ABC through the night and was therefore town. So, I defended him, (but not about the lynching thing). 

Remember you said that Linkz was so sure that there would only be one kill. All I said was that it "just so happened to have only been one kill". It was just fyi, but you latched onto it as me defending him. 

Again, it wasn't MY misinterpretation as opposed to BOTH of us (at the least). All I was doing was saying that linkz was accidentally right. And it turned into a ridiculous argument where we were arguing two different things and somehow not figuring out that out....that is, until I did.

I think one of the hardest parts about mafia is predicting how a paranoid townie is going to act. :P



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

so I played poorly eh? Worse than stefl and abc... ok.

I guess, I'm wrong? How? Nobody was pushing for me....I got everyone to vote for a LURKER over me. That's like, a last resort!

I just..don't..understand.

sorry hat.


I had pushed you day one. and was sure you were scum then. Didn't really push to hard for you day two for a few reasons. I was already sure you were scum and wanted to try to hunt for others since I new I was dead I wasn't afraid of doing anything. There wasn't too much enthusiasm when I mentioned you, linkz slightly but that was about it. Plus with the people we had lurking I didn't want the game to get that boring so fast.

Don't take too much credit for trash's lynch there were several who pushed for that and even then it never really had too many votes and could have flipped to someone else just before the end.

yeah I didn't mean to take credit at all for that.

But I want to mention. How long would everyone have put me off for later? Because that was my goal, and lynching the lurker, despite everyone previously saying that it should be a last resort, happened before me. I wanted to tread that line, and I felt that I did.

Had we both lived I would have tried to have you lynched the next day. No idea on how long anyone else would wate.

Yes, I understand, "the next day", but with suspicions on day 1, and no push on either day 1 or 2, do you really believe your conviction? IIRC stefl and ToS were next on the chopping block to the majority. It is the reason I called the game for town, because they were going to be lynched.

Additionally, a lot of my views and arguments were then carried over throughout the game, which lends credibility to my innocence. Baal was interrogated on day 3 over huge contradictions, which I was one of the first to put real pressure toward, Wonk, you were again brought into the spotlight over possibly being scum, etc, etc.


I do believe them. I just learned things playing with you guys. Revenge voting gets looked down apon even when there are clear arguments, so day one I pushed you with arguments and not my vote.

Day 2 was a big game changer for me. I was going to die besides a slim possibility of a poison doc. I figured trying to get as much info out of as many people as possible was going to work more in my favore than trying to take you down. That and I wasn't even sure at that point if I wanted to help the town or the scum team.

See, the way I understand it, don't argue with Wonk is a clear lesson. From now on, I'm not going to do it as town or mafia or anything. Day one, you had nothing on me. It was when you said, "i'm afraid of being killed.....Power role games are scary" or something along those lines, and I caught you in a lie or contradiction later on.

And then look at that, I caught a scum.

No, my lesson is don't talk to you. You get so stubborn, and like now, you think that it was your suspicions that had you pushing for me! I initiated it! Had I not pursued you, you would not have had these suspicions, and my pursuance was against a scum. Surely, you see the irony in that.



It's like this post:

Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:

sorry I thought it was obvious since vett hadn't posted at all in here yet and when he came on saw the vote on him and said why.

That doesn't make the reason for the vote obvious though, because it was the votee's explanation for the vote, which could very well be wrong. Case in point, prof's thought for why I voted him(and also TOS's intial guess) was incorrect.

prof was confused because you were confusing, and in fact have now refused to say your reasons. With my vote on vett since he hadn't said ANYTHING at the time I voted for him and in fact was the only player who hadn't said anything.

Also I've not taken 10 posts to not explain my vote :P

All I have to do is not say anything against you, and you'll defend me.



Here's the next post:

Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:


You doubting vanilla makes me sad though.

Why does that make you sad?
I believe you said that complexity makes it a harder decision to lynch on day 1. 

So, you are sad that a day 1 won't happen?


for a few reasons, him not thinking vanilla and having a role probably meas he got a non vanilla role and thus would be able to say that it isn't.

because nonvanilla games have much more luck

and because if more people have strong roles I might just get taken out again  victim of an improper balance to the force :P

1. that's very doubtful. Just because someone *implies* that they have a role doesn't make it so. Remember, mafia is a game about deception. There have been more than a few times where I have acted in a way to draw attention, and others do it too.

2. That's debateable. THe vanilla games we've been playing still had cops and docs, and they are the most influential roles, and completely luck based. (in a way) Keep in mind that roles such as watcher, tracker, etc don't ever see the whole picture.

3. Or maybe you'll get scanned? Or maybe protected like when hat bodyguarded you. I don't see why you're so "worried" about getting taken out.. If anything, the only thing you should be afraid of, as town, is a mafia kill, and that's in every game, not just powered up ones. And yes, I am implying that you're not town. I don't like your answers at all (specifically the last one, though). The first two show very superficial thought processes, almost like you came up with them on the fly.

unvote

vote: wonk

Before this post, you defended me. But I was right. I caught you. 

 

This embedded quote is also ironic.

and because if more people have strong roles "I might just get taken out again  victim of an improper balance to the force :P"

yet you now argue the game was balanced.

 

I told you. My lesson, my lesson from now on, is don't argue with wonk. I've learned the same thing about Trash, and FF. You just don't argue with them and they'll leave you alone. It doesn't matter if I'm right. Don't argue.