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I have the general flavor and roles of my game set up, if Republic doesn't feel like modding I'll guess I'll Copy/Paste the rules and make the thread etc.

If I get to mod I'd like a co mod that knows how to make quicktopics and can count votes



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Boo Hoo prof. Sorry for giving the SK a chance to win. Next time I make a game I'll be sure to make you an untouchable saint.

Every faction had a chance to win. You are just a sore loser.  And no, I didn't make up roles on the spot. You're just trying to avoid admitting to being wrong over and over again in the dead thread.

Anyways, I'm not going to entertain your whiny behavior, you did it last game with heph's game, and now here, because you fail one time after the other to have any real impact on any mafia game. Then you have the balls to blame the hosts. When all it really is -is you being salty about getting cut from games before having an influence on 'em.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

With the backup mafia I agree with prof about the imbalance. Essentially 4 mafia, 1 SK, 1 Survivor VS 7 townies(2 of which die together essentially. quoting hat from the dead thread, "The town could have suffered a huge blow had one of the siblings got burned or poisoned early on, as the guard wouldn't have protected it any way. ") is nearly stacked as badly against town as Heph's game. 

It was much less imbalanced without the backup, although mafia did have their handicaps. I said it a few times, but in my opinion the same mafia team with a one-shot normal kill(or even daykill as they eventually got) would've likely been ideal. Or a normal killing method any member could execute, with one-shot poison and I'd say a two-shot janitor.

SKs do often hit mafia, but that's part of them trying to reduce the numbers on both sides so they can win. With 3 likely town(including Wonk), it was in FF's best interests to try to hit mafia. If town was able to lynch mafia instead of trash, he probably would've wanted to hit another townie.

 

Instead of poisoning Stefl, it may have been best to poison night one as had happened, but get Stefl lynched day two and hopefully janitored. It's a win/win as it would've given TOS and prof townie points, and/or would've made the poison look like a one-shot with a standard kill being blocked night one, opening up a fakeclaim for a protective role. Same end result of one dead townie(or non-mafia at least) and no more poison handicap, but lynching non-mafia isn't as much of a sure thing as poisoining one.



"The game was unbalanced in favor of town, hat overcompensated, and then realizing his mistake, tried to balance it as best as possible."

You just don't give up.

Here's a better one.

Trucks, who plays a ton better than you, only got lynched because he couldn't participate due to real life issues.

Stefl, the one who should really be complaining, was able to last to the very end and almost win the game.

Prof, who was suspected from every pro-town player from the start of the game, failed miserably early on. Doesn't want to bitch with FF, so cries imbalanced.

Instead of tunneling from your perspective. Do some homework and consider these scenarios: FF getting cured day one, FF killing the psyc day one. Sibling getting burned day one. Stefl dying day one. Cursing the SK day one .... and at least a half dozen of other situations that could have given the mafia a head start. Intsead of complaing, omg poison crippled us; SK overpowered."

You know, I always see you arguing in other threads (don't really read them, just notice) but I can tell from this little discussion that you see things in  ... in a different light. And let's just say that light source  is a tiny itsy bitsy hole in a pitch balck room..



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NotStan was bulletproof?  I thought it was baal curing me that stopped the kill. 

Also, there's no denying that the game balance was pretty much a mindfuck to look at, but I think the fact that you have to justify why you seem to be arguing that town and mafia were both overpowered is evidence that neither were, at least not to the extent that you claim. 



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Notstan was not bulletproof.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Also if I ever host again I certainly don't intend to take my game to an outside website for approval. 

I'd say a little research and getting advice from people right here on VGChartz who have experience, or even just discussing it with the co-mod, will solve most problems. 



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Final-Fan said:

NotStan was bulletproof?  I thought it was baal curing me that stopped the kill. 

Also, there's no denying that the game balance was pretty much a mindfuck to look at, but I think the fact that you have to justify why you seem to be arguing that town and mafia were both overpowered is evidence that neither were, at least not to the extent that you claim. 

Mindfuc yes, but I'm trying to argue that the mafia weren't as screwed as prof claims it to be (even though he's twisted it into an argument of balance when we all know he's upset about dying early[just read the mafia thread]). Everyone had a chance to win (except wonk :P)



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hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:

NotStan was bulletproof?  I thought it was baal curing me that stopped the kill. 

Also, there's no denying that the game balance was pretty much a mindfuck to look at, but I think the fact that you have to justify why you seem to be arguing that town and mafia were both overpowered is evidence that neither were, at least not to the extent that you claim. 

Mindfuc yes, but I'm trying to argue that the mafia weren't as screwed as prof claims it to be (even though he's twisted it into an argument of balance when we all know he's upset about dying early[just read the mafia thread]). Everyone had a chance to win (except wonk :P)

Actually if Wonk was in a situation like the game ended (1 mafia to two not mafia), he could have won as well. But that would have meant he had to make up his role, which he could have probably done seeeing as NotStan almost got away with a fake role.



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19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
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hatmoza said:

"The game was unbalanced in favor of town, hat overcompensated, and then realizing his mistake, tried to balance it as best as possible."

You just don't give up.

Here's a better one.

Trucks, who plays a ton better than you, only got lynched because he couldn't participate due to real life issues.

Stefl, the one who should really be complaining, was able to last to the very end and almost win the game.

Prof, who was suspected from every pro-town player from the start of the game, failed miserably early on. Doesn't want to bitch with FF, so cries imbalanced.

Prove ANY of that.

Linkz thought I was town. Not one person FoS'ed or voted me. Even FF admits he only had "a strange feeling". 

You say stefl should be complaining? Stefl almost won the game?