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A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:

NotStan, this is the game deciding question,

 

Who do you think daykilled Linkz?

I believe it was either you or Stefl had a one shot ability taking into account his scummates, Prof and ToS perished. I am adressing the points in the post above now.

Stefl was Poisoner, how could it have been him? And wouldn't he have killed Heph before he revealed his information?

The damage was done, he would have been as good as dead either way - with Heph on his trail and essentially hinting at him bullshitting in regards to his nameclaim/roleclaim that would have been an overly suspicious move.


He could have easily claimed someone was trying to frame him, and we would have believed him because Heph didn't say exactly what was wrong and Stefl would easily convince others with his play for pity that he's Hughes. Do you think I did it now?

I wouldn't rule it out. I'd say it was either you or stefl responsible for the day kill, the thing is despite the roleclaim and stefls attempts at making it look like Heph is the one that is attempting to frame, the evidene was on his sides - the lack of votals etc would semi-confirm the role of actor and the previous softclaims too, when an actor - a role that is pro town accuses someone else of fake nameclaiming, whom will people believe? I am still dubious about Heph, but I am leaning towards the fact that he might actually be pro town in this instance, and that leaves you responsible for the prolongation(word? lol) of this game.



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NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:

NotStan, this is the game deciding question,

 

Who do you think daykilled Linkz?

I believe it was either you or Stefl had a one shot ability taking into account his scummates, Prof and ToS perished. I am adressing the points in the post above now.

Stefl was Poisoner, how could it have been him? And wouldn't he have killed Heph before he revealed his information?

The damage was done, he would have been as good as dead either way - with Heph on his trail and essentially hinting at him bullshitting in regards to his nameclaim/roleclaim that would have been an overly suspicious move.


He could have easily claimed someone was trying to frame him, and we would have believed him because Heph didn't say exactly what was wrong and Stefl would easily convince others with his play for pity that he's Hughes. Do you think I did it now?

I wouldn't rule it out. I'd say it was either you or stefl responsible for the day kill, the thing is despite the roleclaim and stefls attempts at making it look like Heph is the one that is attempting to frame, the evidene was on his sides - the lack of votals etc would semi-confirm the role of actor and the previous softclaims too, when an actor - a role that is pro town accuses someone else of fake nameclaiming, whom will people believe? I am still dubious about Heph, but I am leaning towards the fact that he might actually be pro town in this instance, and that leaves you responsible for the prolongation(word? lol) of this game.

Would Hatmoza give Stefl a daykilling power? The mafia so far have had someone who hides bodies, a poisoner, and a someone who can curse others. I don't believe that Hatz would go and give Stefl, the poisoner, a day kill ability. If anyone he would have given it to Trucks or Prof, who didn't have have any killing powers. It couldn't have just been a general mafia ability because it would have had to be a night action, and the others would have had to agreed on using it in the day.



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A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:
NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:

NotStan, this is the game deciding question,

 

Who do you think daykilled Linkz?

I believe it was either you or Stefl had a one shot ability taking into account his scummates, Prof and ToS perished. I am adressing the points in the post above now.

Stefl was Poisoner, how could it have been him? And wouldn't he have killed Heph before he revealed his information?

The damage was done, he would have been as good as dead either way - with Heph on his trail and essentially hinting at him bullshitting in regards to his nameclaim/roleclaim that would have been an overly suspicious move.


He could have easily claimed someone was trying to frame him, and we would have believed him because Heph didn't say exactly what was wrong and Stefl would easily convince others with his play for pity that he's Hughes. Do you think I did it now?

I wouldn't rule it out. I'd say it was either you or stefl responsible for the day kill, the thing is despite the roleclaim and stefls attempts at making it look like Heph is the one that is attempting to frame, the evidene was on his sides - the lack of votals etc would semi-confirm the role of actor and the previous softclaims too, when an actor - a role that is pro town accuses someone else of fake nameclaiming, whom will people believe? I am still dubious about Heph, but I am leaning towards the fact that he might actually be pro town in this instance, and that leaves you responsible for the prolongation(word? lol) of this game.

Would Hatmoza give Stefl a daykilling power? The mafia so far have had someone who hides bodies, a poisoner, and a someone who can curse others. I don't believe that Hatz would go and give Stefl, the poisoner, a day kill ability. If anyone he would have given it to Trucks or Prof, who didn't have have any killing powers. It couldn't have just been a general mafia ability because it would have had to be a night action, and the others would have had to agreed on using it in the day.

Well taking into account that stefl was severely down as we had 6 people yesterday, 4 of which were town at the time, I wouldn't go past it - and the deaths of ToS and Prof, if he didn't have a one shot insta kill ability then it isn't making a better case for you, as it narrows down my fields on you specifically as the last scum member.



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NotStan said:
A Bad Clown said:

Would Hatmoza give Stefl a daykilling power? The mafia so far have had someone who hides bodies, a poisoner, and a someone who can curse others. I don't believe that Hatz would go and give Stefl, the poisoner, a day kill ability. If anyone he would have given it to Trucks or Prof, who didn't have have any killing powers. It couldn't have just been a general mafia ability because it would have had to be a night action, and the others would have had to agreed on using it in the day.

Well taking into account that stefl was severely down as we had 6 people yesterday, 4 of which were town at the time, I wouldn't go past it - and the deaths of ToS and Prof, if he didn't have a one shot insta kill ability then it isn't making a better case for you, as it narrows down my fields on you specifically as the last scum member.


It's too bad I couldn't possibly killed Linkz.



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Lets look back and see what happened when Linkz was daykilled

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4038186

"ok the balance seemed way off... but with this...

**** ABC is not online (important note)"

It wasn't just him, even Stefl said

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4038210

"The only thing we can be sure off is that ABC most likely did not kill Linkz, since he is offline..."

As you can see, I wasn't even on during that time. I didn't even return from my classes and log onto VGchartz until more than an hour after Linkz was killed.

If you didn't even notice, Heph was replying to you during the minute Linkz was killed, which clears him from being the killer. The Elrics are were both masons, Bazaal was Hawkeye, and that leaves you and Stefl as the only people who could have killed Linkz. But wait, Stefl was mafia poisoner is dead, and the game is still continuing.



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A Bad Clown said:

Lets look back and see what happened when Linkz was daykilled

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4038186

"ok the balance seemed way off... but with this...

**** ABC is not online (important note)"

It wasn't just him, even Stefl said

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4038210

"The only thing we can be sure off is that ABC most likely did not kill Linkz, since he is offline..."

As you can see, I wasn't even on during that time. I didn't even return from my classes and log onto VGchartz until more than an hour after Linkz was killed.

If you didn't even notice, Heph was replying to you during the minute Linkz was killed, which clears him from being the killer. The Elrics are were both masons, Bazaal was Hawkeye, and that leaves you and Stefl as the only people who could have killed Linkz. But wait, Stefl was mafia poisoner is dead, and the game is still continuing.

What you're forgetting to take into account is the possibility of Hat not being online to register the PM that was sent to him, until then - that can always happen, after all he's not on 24/7.



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Now now, that is a perfect cover - your scummate effectively tried to clear your name there. I'd wager that you send in the action earlier that day but hat had not come online to receive it until then, when you were conviniently offline. It's a big leap but I think it can explain the chain of events.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4037838

"And in case I didn't make it obvious, NotStan is at the top of my suspect list. I'll wait for everyone to get a word in before voting though."

After that

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4037854

Bazaal follows suit

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4037859

Leatherhat tries to agree with Linkz

You could have even sent it in right then, you had many chances to to send Hatmoza the PM and you had people willing to vote you. If Stefl didn't pretend to be Hughes, you would have been lynched. I'd take the opinion of 3 confirmed townies over someone who claims a minor character with a weak role.



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A Bad Clown said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4037838

"And in case I didn't make it obvious, NotStan is at the top of my suspect list. I'll wait for everyone to get a word in before voting though."

After that

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4037854

Bazaal follows suit

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4037859

Leatherhat tries to agree with Linkz

You could have even sent it in right then, you had many chances to to send Hatmoza the PM and you had people willing to vote you. If Stefl didn't pretend to be Hughes, you would have been lynched. I'd take the opinion of 3 confirmed townies over someone who claims a minor character with a weak role.

Of course he'd try to agree with Linkz, they're on the same team. What I am yet to determine is whether one of them had an anti town agenda but were still siblings - as can be the case. I am not even sure there were masons to begin with, just siblings maybe? But knowing that disclosing such information would result in targeting of them and metaphorically speaking, killing two birds with one stone. Why would I kill linkz without even attempting to nameclaim/roleclaim beforehand? Just outright killing without disclosing any information? You're the supposed hobo as you're implying, have you seen me take part in any of the night activities?

People willing to vote me and people voting me is not the same thing, Baal dropped his vote after I roleclaimed and was right to do so, taking into account that we did lynch one of your scummates in the end. The attempts that you seem to be trying to make me look like the person responsible for the day kill seem like a rather desperate move to cover up your tracks ABC, taking into account that your previous attempts with the knowledge of FMA lore failed.



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NotStan said:

Now now, that is a perfect cover - your scummate effectively tried to clear your name there. I'd wager that you send in the action earlier that day but hat had not come online to receive it until then, when you were conviniently offline. It's a big leap but I think it can explain the chain of events.


It took Hatmoza more than 12 hours to recieve a PM from me?



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