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My problem with this whole issue is that they will start pushing that number lower and lower. 250 this year, 200 next year, 2015 25G cap. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I think that they already charge enough for there service and don't provide enough of good service to get that much in the first place. Speed up your service maybe. Stop bleeding everyone dry. Sucks though, no one sticks together on anything anymore. We should make these companies pay for there screw ups. Instead we just take it.

 

The gas companies are leading the charge and  we give them big tax breaks to f-ck  us every year. What a joke.



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Looks like I'm the only person who thinks that we should pay for what we use, oh well.



makingmusic476 said:
SamuelRSmith said:

250gb? Who /really/ is going to go over it? And even if they do... it's only another $10 per 50gb. I actually think these prices/caps are more than fair. Why should 98% of users suffer while the other 2% are using 10 times the average?


Bandwidth is not a resource in short supply.  Those 98% of users would not be suffering if these charges weren't put into place.  The costs of improving our infrastructure are negligible compared to the associated gains made in peak bandwidth, so the prices we pay for internet speed should be DECREASING over time, not increasing alongside the implementation of caps.

Bandwidth costs are literally cheaper than ever.  You have Lithuanians getting 300 Mbps for only $35/USD a month, Google bringing GB/s speeds to Kansas City next year, the Japanese getting on average over 60 Mbps way back in 2007, meanwhile AT&T is charging us $50 for a mere 6 Mpbs DSL line, and they're now adding a 150gb cap on top of that.  It is absolute and utter bullshit, and it should not be defended.

Also, to all those worrying about corporations "getting away" with this, keep in mind that bandwidth caps directly conflict with the business models of companies like Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Amazon, and Netflix.  It won't be long before they get involved in this battle, or hell, they may even start up their own ISPs like Google.


Well, in my part of the world, bandwidth IS in short supply. Particularly at peak times. Caps or pay-as-you-use need to be put in place to:

a) make things fairer
b) allow the ISPs to better direct investment resources

But, alas, it will never happen, because people enjoy free lunches.



In Australia we have always had Capped Plans. That is really good tho that they are offering 250 gb. i am paying 69 dollars an month for 50GB and only 4.9 mbps download speeds. And by 69 dollars that is like 70 USD. 

Anyways: cant wait for NBN to roll in here, 40 billion and we are getting speeds at Min 10mbps and as high as 100mbps and download caps of 150GB-250GB for around 39 dollars an month. 

thats crazy good. 



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bannedagain said:

My problem with this whole issue is that they will start pushing that number lower and lower. 250 this year, 200 next year, 2015 25G cap. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I think that they already charge enough for there service and don't provide enough of good service to get that much in the first place. Speed up your service maybe. Stop bleeding everyone dry. Sucks though, no one sticks together on anything anymore. We should make these companies pay for there screw ups. Instead we just take it.

 

The gas companies are leading the charge and  we give them big tax breaks to f-ck  us every year. What a joke.

how about 512mb cap. Yep When boardband hit Australia, that was the cap they were offering. 512 mb. 



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SamuelRSmith said:

Well, in my part of the world, bandwidth IS in short supply. Particularly at peak times. Caps or pay-as-you-use need to be put in place to:

a) make things fairer
b) allow the ISPs to better direct investment resources


You fall for corporate talk quite easily. It's just excuses so that they never have to upgrade their pipeline to support for higher bandwidth capacity.



Galaki said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Well, in my part of the world, bandwidth IS in short supply. Particularly at peak times. Caps or pay-as-you-use need to be put in place to:

a) make things fairer
b) allow the ISPs to better direct investment resources


You fall for corporate talk quite easily. It's just excuses so that they never have to upgrade their pipeline to support for higher bandwidth capacity.

Yep, call them and tell them to fix the broken A-- system. Thats there job to make the sh-t work. Oh it's other people making it slow, No you have a sh-t system and don't want to upgrade.

So when everything becomes digital, you have to pay for everything twice if you download it. I do not understand how you think this is a good thing. You think they should get more money because there service is horrible and believe me AT&T is horrible. There just putting the blame somewhere else. Oh it's other people clugging up the system. No it's not.



Galaki said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Well, in my part of the world, bandwidth IS in short supply. Particularly at peak times. Caps or pay-as-you-use need to be put in place to:

a) make things fairer
b) allow the ISPs to better direct investment resources


You fall for corporate talk quite easily. It's just excuses so that they never have to upgrade their pipeline to support for higher bandwidth capacity.


I live in a rural area, it's currently not profitable to provide us with a better service than a ~5mb connection through ADSL. I don't expect firms to do things that aren't profitable (to do so is a mis-allocation of resources by defintion).

When it hits peak hours, the speed of the internet connection can drop to under a meg, due to everybody having unlimited broadband... if people had to pay more for usage during peak times, the demand will fall, and a better service would be provided to those who are willing to pay for it. I do not see the problem, here.

And, I've never heard a company talking about pay-per-usage, not since the days of dial-up, so I'm not falling for anything. Indeed, I see this as the exact same problem as we have with our roads (congestion at peak hours) - and believe the problem could be fixed using the same solution.

We ration everything else out there through the price mechanism, why should bandwidth be any different?



bannedagain said:
Galaki said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Well, in my part of the world, bandwidth IS in short supply. Particularly at peak times. Caps or pay-as-you-use need to be put in place to:

a) make things fairer
b) allow the ISPs to better direct investment resources


You fall for corporate talk quite easily. It's just excuses so that they never have to upgrade their pipeline to support for higher bandwidth capacity.

Yep, call them and tell them to fix the broken A-- system. Thats there job to make the sh-t work. Oh it's other people making it slow, No you have a sh-t system and don't want to upgrade.

So when everything becomes digital, you have to pay for everything twice if you download it. I do not understand how you think this is a good thing. You think they should get more money because there service is horrible and believe me AT&T is horrible. There just putting the blame somewhere else. Oh it's other people clugging up the system. No it's not.


How is this any different from paying delivery on something you ordered?



SamuelRSmith said:

Looks like I'm the only person who thinks that we should pay for what we use, oh well.


Well, I mean the Internet used to work like that... and EVERYONE hated it.

The market more or less dictated it DIDN'T want to be charged by usage.