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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:

Apparently Pizzahut isn't alone in his skepticism....

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/190298/81/Poll-Most-want-US-to-release-Osamas-death-photos

even releasing the photo wouldnt convince people otherwise.  i mean most of these people are probably ones that think that 9/11 is a government op and that osama and alqaeda are CIA props.   so showing a fake photo of a CIA agent is hardly going to convince them of anything. 

 

regardless of that, i believe the photo should be released.  people will do as they do and think as they think regardless of whether the photo is there or not.  this is not a secret, it is not shameful, and it should not be hidden.

 


I wonder.  The "9/11 was an inside job" people tend to be the extreme left.

I'd expect the "Osama's death is faked" people to be extreme right.

 

I guess they could be Lyndon Larouche type supporters.

just for the sake of opposing obama?   because i would would say that beleiving the entire thing is sham is a good start to believing the death is a just another sham, fed to all the stupid sheeples who believed all the other government BS  so they can bolster sagging support for the war for oil on terror


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."



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Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:

Apparently Pizzahut isn't alone in his skepticism....

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/190298/81/Poll-Most-want-US-to-release-Osamas-death-photos

even releasing the photo wouldnt convince people otherwise.  i mean most of these people are probably ones that think that 9/11 is a government op and that osama and alqaeda are CIA props.   so showing a fake photo of a CIA agent is hardly going to convince them of anything. 

 

regardless of that, i believe the photo should be released.  people will do as they do and think as they think regardless of whether the photo is there or not.  this is not a secret, it is not shameful, and it should not be hidden.

 


I wonder.  The "9/11 was an inside job" people tend to be the extreme left.

I'd expect the "Osama's death is faked" people to be extreme right.

 

I guess they could be Lyndon Larouche type supporters.

just for the sake of opposing obama?   because i would would say that beleiving the entire thing is sham is a good start to believing the death is a just another sham, fed to all the stupid sheeples who believed all the other government BS  so they can bolster sagging support for the war for oil on terror


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."


Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.



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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
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More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."

Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.

I honestly don't understand what your trying to say.  Do you think 9/11 was an inside job or something and ALSO think Osama wasn't killed?



Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
 


I

j


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."

Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.

I honestly don't understand what your trying to say.  Do you think 9/11 was an inside job or something and ALSO think Osama wasn't killed?


I thought those were things you and bubls were hinting at.



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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:

Apparently Pizzahut isn't alone in his skepticism....

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/190298/81/Poll-Most-want-US-to-release-Osamas-death-photos

even releasing the photo wouldnt convince people otherwise.  i mean most of these people are probably ones that think that 9/11 is a government op and that osama and alqaeda are CIA props.   so showing a fake photo of a CIA agent is hardly going to convince them of anything. 

 

regardless of that, i believe the photo should be released.  people will do as they do and think as they think regardless of whether the photo is there or not.  this is not a secret, it is not shameful, and it should not be hidden.

 


I wonder.  The "9/11 was an inside job" people tend to be the extreme left.

I'd expect the "Osama's death is faked" people to be extreme right.

 

I guess they could be Lyndon Larouche type supporters.

just for the sake of opposing obama?   because i would would say that beleiving the entire thing is sham is a good start to believing the death is a just another sham, fed to all the stupid sheeples who believed all the other government BS  so they can bolster sagging support for the war for oil on terror


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."


Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.

i found his answer acceptable.  while i have never met or discussed the topic with someone that believes osama to be an innocent activist being horribly misportrayed by the us gov and its media... im sure that some jackasses out there believes it.   probably a non-political radical muslim group though. 



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MrBubbles said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:

Apparently Pizzahut isn't alone in his skepticism....

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/190298/81/Poll-Most-want-US-to-release-Osamas-death-photos

even releasing the photo wouldnt convince people otherwise.  i mean most of these people are probably ones that think that 9/11 is a government op and that osama and alqaeda are CIA props.   so showing a fake photo of a CIA agent is hardly going to convince them of anything. 

 

regardless of that, i believe the photo should be released.  people will do as they do and think as they think regardless of whether the photo is there or not.  this is not a secret, it is not shameful, and it should not be hidden.

 


I wonder.  The "9/11 was an inside job" people tend to be the extreme left.

I'd expect the "Osama's death is faked" people to be extreme right.

 

I guess they could be Lyndon Larouche type supporters.

just for the sake of opposing obama?   because i would would say that beleiving the entire thing is sham is a good start to believing the death is a just another sham, fed to all the stupid sheeples who believed all the other government BS  so they can bolster sagging support for the war for oil on terror


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."


Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.

i found his answer acceptable.  while i have never met or discussed the topic with someone that believes osama to be an innocent activist being horribly misportrayed by the us gov and its media... im sure that some jackasses out there believes it.   probably a non-political radical muslim group though. 


ROTFLRFH! 



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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
 


I

j


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."

Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.

I honestly don't understand what your trying to say.  Do you think 9/11 was an inside job or something and ALSO think Osama wasn't killed?


I thought those were things you and bubls were hinting at.

Uh... no.  We were discussing who it was that most likely believed Obama lied about killing Osama.   Mr. bubbles thought it was 9/11 conspiracy theorists.  Mostly a Left Wing conspiracy group.  While I beleived it was more Right Wing conspiracy groups who disliked Obama.

His makes more sense logically, but i've found with conspiracy theorists, logic iusually isn't consistent and it's more just about railing against things you don't like or supporting hope for something you do. (See aliens.)



The only "conspiracy" i believe is that Michael Jordan leaving basketball to play baseball was a secret suspension for gambling.  I mean heck, look at Jordan's HOF speech, he'd play now if he could. Find it hard to believe he left when his whole history was basically "I want to crush everyone all the time"



Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
MrBubbles said:
Kasz216 said:
 


I

j


More or less.  Well, that and just a general distrust of him anyway.

I feel like the 9/11 was an inside job people would like the death of Osama so they can rail about how "A completely innoccent and misunderstood political advocate was murdered by the US government."

 

 


Look at Rashard Mendethal for an example.  Talked about how he thought it was stupid that people were cheering Osama's death, then said he found it hard to beleve that planes could take down a building demolition style... and that we've "Only heard one side of the story... and didn't hear his side."

Here's a bit of advice: If you're stuck in a deep dark hole, you DON'T keep digging DOWN to find your way out.

I honestly don't understand what your trying to say.  Do you think 9/11 was an inside job or something and ALSO think Osama wasn't killed?


I thought those were things you and bubls were hinting at.

Uh... no.  We were discussing who it was that most likely believed Obama lied about killing Osama.   Mr. bubbles thought it was 9/11 conspiracy theorists.  Mostly a Left Wing conspiracy group.  While I beleived it was more Right Wing conspiracy groups who disliked Obama.

His makes more sense logically, but i've found with conspiracy theorists, logic iusually isn't consistent and it's more just about railing against things you don't like or supporting hope for something you do. (See aliens.)


See: Birthers



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pizzahut451 said:
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Rainbow Yoshi said:

I don't understand why they buried him at sea, could it be to stop people maliciously visiting his grave?

They don't want a place of worship for his martyrdom. They want all evidence of his existence to just go away.


Because there is no evidence of his death. Are we really gonna trust them with no evidence whatsoever, just take their word on it? Yeah right...

So now they owe you a personal picture of his slain body for you to think it's legit? Get real.

They dont owe me shit. They owe it to their own people. I just hoped people wont (as always) blindly follow every single word the government says.Oh boy, how wrong was I? Guess I really should get real:/

If they don't owe you anything, quit moaning about it then. Unless you can come up with a better theory than "it's probably a conspiracy", I don't see how anything you say has any more validity.

I dont see how my ''conspiracy theory'' is any less supported with evidence than their claim that Bin Laden is dead. And i am not moaning about anything, its just a normal discussion, there is no need for flaming.

Because yours is based on speculation. The government has facts on their side. Such as, the mission did take place, facial recognition software was used, measurements were taken, and DNA samples were taken. There is a very slim chance that this was not Osama.  Really, a serious question here, was the US government behind 9/11?

If you show me those facts I'll hapiily beleive that he is dead. Unil then...nothing

As for 9/11, I dont know what to think, lol. There are lots of arguments that support each side.

You clearly havn't listened to the news at all. The facts are there, and soon, the pictures. Tell me, in what crazy world would they lie about Osama's death? How would that benefit them at all? If you have a theory, please, I would like to hear it. At any rate, the fact that you couldn't give me a straight answer for the 9/11 question I poised, tells me you are truely a conspiricy theory junkie. You realize that the Wiki leaks documents have proof the the US government had nothing to do with 9/11 right? Also, there is not one single theory supporting the beliefe that the US government was involved in 9/11, that makes complete sense.

You know what doesnt make sense? That you kill your countriy's number one enemy you've been hunting for 10 years and take no picture of it and dispose the body right away with poor excuse. As for the benefit, I am not seying they are lying I just dont beleive them until I see any kind of proof that he is dead. And they can benefit by getting people and the media off thier back with trying to capture Osama Bin Laden. And you still didnt show me any actual evidence.

You know what else doesnt make sense? Planted explosives in Twin towers, the building seven going down in ''pancake'' fahsion and you know what the government explanation for the destruction of building seven 7 was? Fire. Never before or after 911 was any building collapsed because of fire. You know what else doesnt make any sense? What else doesnt make any sense? That the passport of the hijackers made it all the way down trought the collapsing building and fire undamaged and 6 months later the hijacker was still alive. Heck, some of them are still alive today. Where did all 12 tons of steel and titanium dissapear when the plane hit the Pentagon? Why was the footage from the hotel near the pentagon that taped the ''attack'' never released in the public. Like I said, there are tons of evidence to support each side. 911 case is a big mistery, I personally dont know what to think about it.

On your first point, they took pictures, video, and they gave him a "proper" burial at sea with a 40 min service. The evidence is out there, if you shoose not to believe it, fine. life in your bubble. As for me, given what I have seen, and heard from all maner of news outlets, and the fact that there is no possible way you can spin this to make it sound like this administration can gain anything, in any conceivable mannor, from lying about killing Osama,  I will choose to believe.

 

As for your last point, ever heard of thermite plasma? Ever wondered what a 450 ton projectile traveling well over 200 MPH can do to a bulding that wasn't designed to withstand such forces? Anyway, there is absolutely no evidence supporing the 9/11 truthers side of the story, just wild speculation, mis-information, and sheer ignorance on the subject of physics. On the other side of the coin, once again, you have the question of, how would taking down the twin towers benefit the US government in any way shape or form? It sure didn't help us. Also, the Wiki leaks documents prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the government had nothing to do with 9/11. 9/11 is no mistery, terrorists hijacked airplanes and flew them into building with the intent of toppling the US both finantially and phsycologically, kinda seems like it worked.



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