| Kasz216 said:
Are you calling Sony a lier? |
Pretty sure he called Sony a liar, though.
| Kasz216 said:
Are you calling Sony a lier? |
Pretty sure he called Sony a liar, though.
Galaki said:
Pretty sure he called Sony a liar, though. |
I don't get all these people who are rushing to Sony's defense by accusing them of lieing. I mean, if he actually does mean that it'd be the third person i've seen do that.

@kaz i didnt say you were lying i didnt say anything about this topic actually. All i said was getting into any sort of discussion is frivolous because you will either say your sources are bs mine are so awesome (kinda like when we were discussing gaming piracy and you said piracy helps based on 2 sources One on a single dvd's sales and the other which was on the music industry and flat out said that its finding only pertain to its subject and cannot be applied to other subjects or other industries because of outside factors not taken into account) or you'll bail.
As for this discussion was it easy to get passed psns security i have no idea. We really dont know how they got in, how many parties were involved, or how hard it was to get in.
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| JamaicameCRAZY said: As for this discussion was it easy to get passed psns security i have no idea. We really dont know how they got in, how many parties were involved, or how hard it was to get in. |
In other words, you either didn't read any of the news released in the last month about PSN hacks or just instinctively blind-out anything remotely negative about Sony's incompetence.
| JamaicameCRAZY said: @kaz i didnt say you were lying i didnt say anything about this topic actually. All i said was getting into any sort of discussion is frivolous because you will either say your sources are bs mine are so awesome (kinda like when we were discussing gaming piracy and you said piracy helps based on 2 sources One on a single dvd's sales and the other which was on the music industry and flat out said that its finding only pertain to its subject and cannot be applied to other subjects or other industries because of outside factors not taken into account) or you'll bail. As for this discussion was it easy to get passed psns security i have no idea. We really dont know how they got in, how many parties were involved, or how hard it was to get in. |
That's because you provided nothing but non-expert testimony as sources... and I provied way more then 2 sources actually.

@galaki I have been reading stuff on here but i havent came across anything that really says how they got in. if you have any info feel free to share.
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security gets outdated every year or sometimes just a few months. There is never a perfect security. As I seen on TV a show on G4, they hacked a mans computer and locked his access on live broadcast. over confidence led to this, and i'm sure it'll be a whole lot harder for any hacker to succeed next time.

| JamaicameCRAZY said: @galaki I have been reading stuff on here but i havent came across anything that really says how they got in. if you have any info feel free to share. |
Sony’s Shinji Hasejima, Sony’s CIO, told Sony’s apologetic news conference that the attack was based on a “known vulnerability” in the non-specified Web application server platform used in the PSN. However, he declined to stipulate what platform/s were used or what vulnerability was exploited, on the basis that disclosure might expose other users to attack.
Hasejima conceded that Sony management had not been aware of the vulnerability that was exploited, and said it is in response to this that the company has established a new executive-level security position, that of chief information security officer, “to improve and enhance such aspects”.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/01/psn_service_restoration/

| fordy said: What the hell? I had to read this again. Is this article for real? Sony use RedHat for their authentication server? Correct me if I'm wrong, but 10 years ago RedHat was one of the suites that the people in the business referred to as "Linux for Dummies". Don't get me wrong. It's a very nice system, but it's initial setup can be rather bloated when compared to other kernel distributions. That was back in the time where if you wanted security, you'd implement an operating system with open, but tight regulations on the source, such as OpenBSD. I dunno. Have RedHat changed their ways and become less bloated? I stopped tracking them after I moved up to Debian. |
Wasn't RedHat made into a comercial offering for enterprise servers at one point? Maybe that variont of it is/was a different animal?

his intent might not be to cause harm through hacking but what if he discussed that information with one of his hacker friends who made use of it? he still becomes the root of the problem so its correct that he gets interrogated.