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imaprettyhotguy on 27 April 2011
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Has anyone had any phising scams sent or had their identity stolen? NO, bottom line is well people could see your info it wasn't their main objective and it was only there for like a few days, it's not a big deal and unless they have proof a hacker looked at your account info specifically it would do nothing but cause an unjustified panic


Just because they haven't done anything with the info doesn't mean they aren't.  It's less likely that they did it just to show they could or show a hole, it's much more likely they took the information for a specific reason. 

It just completely amazes me that some people will so blindly defend the things they love.  You shouldn't run and get your pitch forks but you should definately be aware of the dangers there. 

Many people use the same password for everything and someone knows that password and your email now.  Many of those people don't know that someone has that information.

You don't think this is a problem?

I'm not blindly defending it, there isn't a single confirmed case of anyone actually having the information written down, it's far more likely that seeing account info was just a side effect of what the intrusion was trying to accomplish and they don't actually have the info they just had the ability to see it which they may not even have been aware of 


So what do you think they were trying to accomplish?

CC information, pirating psn games, bring psn down (if it was anon), outside chance corporate sabotage (anon gives a pretty good scapegoat good time to strike) something like that, personal info which you can't even do much with and half people don't even use their real name just seems like aiming really low there are easier ways to get someones name and adress 

seriously?  you don't think people can do much with personal info?

lets say this guy doesn't know what to do with personal info. he can profit just by going to black market and saying "hey i have 70 million people's personal info, who wants it"  there are poeple that know very well how to profit from that info and would pay big dollars to get that big list.

we are talking millions here, not some petty pirated games.

Social secruty numbers go for alot, names and adresses half of which are fake, not so much 



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imaprettyhotguy on 27 April 2011
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Has anyone had any phising scams sent or had their identity stolen? NO, bottom line is well people could see your info it wasn't their main objective and it was only there for like a few days, it's not a big deal and unless they have proof a hacker looked at your account info specifically it would do nothing but cause an unjustified panic


Just because they haven't done anything with the info doesn't mean they aren't.  It's less likely that they did it just to show they could or show a hole, it's much more likely they took the information for a specific reason. 

It just completely amazes me that some people will so blindly defend the things they love.  You shouldn't run and get your pitch forks but you should definately be aware of the dangers there. 

Many people use the same password for everything and someone knows that password and your email now.  Many of those people don't know that someone has that information.

You don't think this is a problem?

I'm not blindly defending it, there isn't a single confirmed case of anyone actually having the information written down, it's far more likely that seeing account info was just a side effect of what the intrusion was trying to accomplish and they don't actually have the info they just had the ability to see it which they may not even have been aware of 

how is this proven?  if my identity gets stolen this year, who's to say how it was stolen?

unless they catch the crook and he tells me, i have no idea of knowing whether this was related to this Sony incedent or the thousands of other ways he could have gotten my info.

Thats the big picture.  Out fo the MILLIONS of people around the world this year that get their ID theft, who are tehy to BLAME.  people love to throw the blame on someone.    And what easier way that to say, I have a psn account. its sony's fault

Yes it is, and the fact that there isn't a single person claiming that yet, and if hackers stole info on 77 million people don't you think something would have come up by now?

dude the news just reported this yesterday.  its like you expect thousands of poeple to NOTICE they have had their ID stolen in minutes.  it can take a long time before someone knows their ID is stolen, and hey have you also maybe thought that these hackers have not done anything yet.  You know wait till teh smoking gun clears before you use them.  maybe they are looking for buyers?  who knows.

but you can guarantee that throughout this year people will be blaming sony for their ID theft, regardless of what is factually correct or not

Not thousands, maybe 4-12 instead of 0, and it's not even like everyone uses their real name/address on psn either, and so far the only confirmed thing is the hackers having the ability to acess the info, I suppose theirs an outside chance that they are looking for buyers but again with everyone putting in random address and names it's not exactly top dollar stuff and thats assuming they were after it and assuming they had the means to copy 77 million accounts simialtaniously which I don't think either is the case 

i bet the amount of people putting in fake info is the minority

Not really considering it's a free service people put in fake stuff for jokes half the time or are lazy and don't want to type out something proper and just hit a bunch of random letters 



imaprettyhotguy on 27 April 2011
Grimes said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Not thousands, maybe 4-12 instead of 0, and it's not even like everyone uses their real name/address on psn either, and so far the only confirmed thing is the hackers having the ability to acess the info, I suppose theirs an outside chance that they are looking for buyers but again with everyone putting in random address and names it's not exactly top dollar stuff and thats assuming they were after it and assuming they had the means to copy 77 million accounts simialtaniously which I don't think either is the case 


It's also reported the theft may have included purchase records. If so, that would make it very easy discriminate targets. Anyone who purchased something almost certainly entered their real identity.

reported by who? Of all the articles I read 90% of what the journalists are saying is pure speculation at best, everyone is blowing it out of preportion so far all we know is the hackers had the ability to look at the info we don't even know that they did and I sincerely doubt they had the ability to copy everyoens info at once 



irstupid on 27 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Has anyone had any phising scams sent or had their identity stolen? NO, bottom line is well people could see your info it wasn't their main objective and it was only there for like a few days, it's not a big deal and unless they have proof a hacker looked at your account info specifically it would do nothing but cause an unjustified panic


Just because they haven't done anything with the info doesn't mean they aren't.  It's less likely that they did it just to show they could or show a hole, it's much more likely they took the information for a specific reason. 

It just completely amazes me that some people will so blindly defend the things they love.  You shouldn't run and get your pitch forks but you should definately be aware of the dangers there. 

Many people use the same password for everything and someone knows that password and your email now.  Many of those people don't know that someone has that information.

You don't think this is a problem?

I'm not blindly defending it, there isn't a single confirmed case of anyone actually having the information written down, it's far more likely that seeing account info was just a side effect of what the intrusion was trying to accomplish and they don't actually have the info they just had the ability to see it which they may not even have been aware of 

how is this proven?  if my identity gets stolen this year, who's to say how it was stolen?

unless they catch the crook and he tells me, i have no idea of knowing whether this was related to this Sony incedent or the thousands of other ways he could have gotten my info.

Thats the big picture.  Out fo the MILLIONS of people around the world this year that get their ID theft, who are tehy to BLAME.  people love to throw the blame on someone.    And what easier way that to say, I have a psn account. its sony's fault

Yes it is, and the fact that there isn't a single person claiming that yet, and if hackers stole info on 77 million people don't you think something would have come up by now?

dude the news just reported this yesterday.  its like you expect thousands of poeple to NOTICE they have had their ID stolen in minutes.  it can take a long time before someone knows their ID is stolen, and hey have you also maybe thought that these hackers have not done anything yet.  You know wait till teh smoking gun clears before you use them.  maybe they are looking for buyers?  who knows.

but you can guarantee that throughout this year people will be blaming sony for their ID theft, regardless of what is factually correct or not

Not thousands, maybe 4-12 instead of 0, and it's not even like everyone uses their real name/address on psn either, and so far the only confirmed thing is the hackers having the ability to acess the info, I suppose theirs an outside chance that they are looking for buyers but again with everyone putting in random address and names it's not exactly top dollar stuff and thats assuming they were after it and assuming they had the means to copy 77 million accounts simialtaniously which I don't think either is the case 

i bet the amount of people putting in fake info is the minority

Not really considering it's a free service people put in fake stuff for jokes half the time or are lazy and don't want to type out something proper and just hit a bunch of random letters 

how does purchasing go on psn?  i know when i purchase on teh wii i have to enter in my address and so forth like i do on any online site and it has to match my credit cards BILLING address.  I can't enter in random bullshit stuff and hope it works.



irstupid on 27 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
Grimes said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Not thousands, maybe 4-12 instead of 0, and it's not even like everyone uses their real name/address on psn either, and so far the only confirmed thing is the hackers having the ability to acess the info, I suppose theirs an outside chance that they are looking for buyers but again with everyone putting in random address and names it's not exactly top dollar stuff and thats assuming they were after it and assuming they had the means to copy 77 million accounts simialtaniously which I don't think either is the case 


It's also reported the theft may have included purchase records. If so, that would make it very easy discriminate targets. Anyone who purchased something almost certainly entered their real identity.

reported by who? Of all the articles I read 90% of what the journalists are saying is pure speculation at best, everyone is blowing it out of preportion so far all we know is the hackers had the ability to look at the info we don't even know that they did and I sincerely doubt they had the ability to copy everyoens info at once 

doesn't matter if true or not.  the fact remains they had the ABILITY to look at it.  whether they kept or got any of it dont matter.  doesn't stop people or the press from blaming sony for any identity thefts, or credit card charges.

and that is horrible press, which all leads to one thing.  sony's brand name being hurt, their trust being lost, and can't imagine how hurt psn sales will be due to this



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imaprettyhotguy on 27 April 2011
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Has anyone had any phising scams sent or had their identity stolen? NO, bottom line is well people could see your info it wasn't their main objective and it was only there for like a few days, it's not a big deal and unless they have proof a hacker looked at your account info specifically it would do nothing but cause an unjustified panic


Just because they haven't done anything with the info doesn't mean they aren't.  It's less likely that they did it just to show they could or show a hole, it's much more likely they took the information for a specific reason. 

It just completely amazes me that some people will so blindly defend the things they love.  You shouldn't run and get your pitch forks but you should definately be aware of the dangers there. 

Many people use the same password for everything and someone knows that password and your email now.  Many of those people don't know that someone has that information.

You don't think this is a problem?

I'm not blindly defending it, there isn't a single confirmed case of anyone actually having the information written down, it's far more likely that seeing account info was just a side effect of what the intrusion was trying to accomplish and they don't actually have the info they just had the ability to see it which they may not even have been aware of 

how is this proven?  if my identity gets stolen this year, who's to say how it was stolen?

unless they catch the crook and he tells me, i have no idea of knowing whether this was related to this Sony incedent or the thousands of other ways he could have gotten my info.

Thats the big picture.  Out fo the MILLIONS of people around the world this year that get their ID theft, who are tehy to BLAME.  people love to throw the blame on someone.    And what easier way that to say, I have a psn account. its sony's fault

Yes it is, and the fact that there isn't a single person claiming that yet, and if hackers stole info on 77 million people don't you think something would have come up by now?

dude the news just reported this yesterday.  its like you expect thousands of poeple to NOTICE they have had their ID stolen in minutes.  it can take a long time before someone knows their ID is stolen, and hey have you also maybe thought that these hackers have not done anything yet.  You know wait till teh smoking gun clears before you use them.  maybe they are looking for buyers?  who knows.

but you can guarantee that throughout this year people will be blaming sony for their ID theft, regardless of what is factually correct or not

Not thousands, maybe 4-12 instead of 0, and it's not even like everyone uses their real name/address on psn either, and so far the only confirmed thing is the hackers having the ability to acess the info, I suppose theirs an outside chance that they are looking for buyers but again with everyone putting in random address and names it's not exactly top dollar stuff and thats assuming they were after it and assuming they had the means to copy 77 million accounts simialtaniously which I don't think either is the case 

i bet the amount of people putting in fake info is the minority

Not really considering it's a free service people put in fake stuff for jokes half the time or are lazy and don't want to type out something proper and just hit a bunch of random letters 

how does purchasing go on psn?  i know when i purchase on teh wii i have to enter in my address and so forth like i do on any online site and it has to match my credit cards BILLING address.  I can't enter in random bullshit stuff and hope it works.

I have no idea I use psn cards, I'll look it up, yeah it's the same you need your credit card to match your name from a forum post, so it could be wrong lol I don't get that though, what if you use your parents CC or something to buy something, with their premission whatever 



imaprettyhotguy on 27 April 2011
irstupid said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
Grimes said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Not thousands, maybe 4-12 instead of 0, and it's not even like everyone uses their real name/address on psn either, and so far the only confirmed thing is the hackers having the ability to acess the info, I suppose theirs an outside chance that they are looking for buyers but again with everyone putting in random address and names it's not exactly top dollar stuff and thats assuming they were after it and assuming they had the means to copy 77 million accounts simialtaniously which I don't think either is the case 


It's also reported the theft may have included purchase records. If so, that would make it very easy discriminate targets. Anyone who purchased something almost certainly entered their real identity.

reported by who? Of all the articles I read 90% of what the journalists are saying is pure speculation at best, everyone is blowing it out of preportion so far all we know is the hackers had the ability to look at the info we don't even know that they did and I sincerely doubt they had the ability to copy everyoens info at once 

doesn't matter if true or not.  the fact remains they had the ABILITY to look at it.  whether they kept or got any of it dont matter.  doesn't stop people or the press from blaming sony for any identity thefts, or credit card charges.

and that is horrible press, which all leads to one thing.  sony's brand name being hurt, their trust being lost, and can't imagine how hurt psn sales will be due to this

I know that I'm just saying people really need to stop assuming the absolute worst, it's annoying 



twesterm on 27 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Has anyone had any phising scams sent or had their identity stolen? NO, bottom line is well people could see your info it wasn't their main objective and it was only there for like a few days, it's not a big deal and unless they have proof a hacker looked at your account info specifically it would do nothing but cause an unjustified panic


Just because they haven't done anything with the info doesn't mean they aren't.  It's less likely that they did it just to show they could or show a hole, it's much more likely they took the information for a specific reason. 

It just completely amazes me that some people will so blindly defend the things they love.  You shouldn't run and get your pitch forks but you should definately be aware of the dangers there. 

Many people use the same password for everything and someone knows that password and your email now.  Many of those people don't know that someone has that information.

You don't think this is a problem?

I'm not blindly defending it, there isn't a single confirmed case of anyone actually having the information written down, it's far more likely that seeing account info was just a side effect of what the intrusion was trying to accomplish and they don't actually have the info they just had the ability to see it which they may not even have been aware of 


So what do you think they were trying to accomplish?

CC information, pirating psn games, bring psn down (if it was anon), outside chance corporate sabotage (anon gives a pretty good scapegoat good time to strike) something like that, personal info which you can't even do much with and half people don't even use their real name just seems like aiming really low there are easier ways to get someones name and adress 

So now you're not making sense.

First off, they were not trying to bring down the PSN, they were specifically taking information.  Sony took down PSN, so strike the theory they were trying to take down the PSN.

So that only leaves they were trying to take CC information or corporate sabotage.  Either way, they're looking for information and that goes against what you were saying that they weren't looking at the information.

Again, this is a pretty big deal.  People need to know about it and need to take steps to protect themselves by watching their information and changing information if they need to.  You can claim it could be for whatever you reason you want but as it stands, they did take that private information, that is straight from Sony's mouth.  Just because nothing has happened doesn't mean it won't. 

Whatever the case, I'm likely never to change your mind because you're blindly devoted.  Luckily I don't really care if you don't monitor your credit and change your passwords.



 

imaprettyhotguy on 27 April 2011
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
twesterm said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Has anyone had any phising scams sent or had their identity stolen? NO, bottom line is well people could see your info it wasn't their main objective and it was only there for like a few days, it's not a big deal and unless they have proof a hacker looked at your account info specifically it would do nothing but cause an unjustified panic


Just because they haven't done anything with the info doesn't mean they aren't.  It's less likely that they did it just to show they could or show a hole, it's much more likely they took the information for a specific reason. 

It just completely amazes me that some people will so blindly defend the things they love.  You shouldn't run and get your pitch forks but you should definately be aware of the dangers there. 

Many people use the same password for everything and someone knows that password and your email now.  Many of those people don't know that someone has that information.

You don't think this is a problem?

I'm not blindly defending it, there isn't a single confirmed case of anyone actually having the information written down, it's far more likely that seeing account info was just a side effect of what the intrusion was trying to accomplish and they don't actually have the info they just had the ability to see it which they may not even have been aware of 


So what do you think they were trying to accomplish?

CC information, pirating psn games, bring psn down (if it was anon), outside chance corporate sabotage (anon gives a pretty good scapegoat good time to strike) something like that, personal info which you can't even do much with and half people don't even use their real name just seems like aiming really low there are easier ways to get someones name and adress 

So now you're not making sense.

First off, they were not trying to bring down the PSN, they were specifically taking information.  Sony took down PSN, so strike the theory they were trying to take down the PSN.

So that only leaves they were trying to take CC information or corporate sabotage.  Either way, they're looking for information and that goes against what you were saying that they weren't looking at the information.

Again, this is a pretty big deal.  People need to know about it and need to take steps to protect themselves by watching their information and changing information if they need to.  You can claim it could be for whatever you reason you want but as it stands, they did take that private information, that is straight from Sony's mouth.  Just because nothing has happened doesn't mean it won't. 

Whatever the case, I'm likely never to change your mind because you're blindly devoted.  Luckily I don't really care if you don't monitor your credit and change your passwords.

There's no proof they were trying to take information, just that they had acess to it, and there's the bait and switch tactic, pretend to go for something to make your actual goal easier, this method has been more effective at briging psn down then anons brute force tatics, and again theres no proof they were looking for the info just that they had access to it and again theres no proof they took the info or even looked at it just that they had the ability to acess to it you are operating under an assumption of an assumption 



irstupid on 27 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
irstupid said:

how does purchasing go on psn?  i know when i purchase on teh wii i have to enter in my address and so forth like i do on any online site and it has to match my credit cards BILLING address.  I can't enter in random bullshit stuff and hope it works.

I have no idea I use psn cards, I'll look it up, yeah it's the same you need your credit card to match your name from a forum post, so it could be wrong lol I don't get that though, what if you use your parents CC or something to buy something, with their premission whatever 

i'm assuming anytime you use credit card info you have to have matching billing address.  so if you use your parents, you STILL have to enter in correct billing address.