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Soleron on 01 May 2011

Increase the coverage of national healthcare until this inmate's treatment is normal. Like the UK's NHS ("socialised medicine").



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HappySqurriel on 01 May 2011
Soleron said:

Increase the coverage of national healthcare until this inmate's treatment is normal. Like the UK's NHS ("socialised medicine").


Realistically, what portion of health services around the world cover treatments like this?

I'm fairly certain that very few people in the United States would have health insurance that covers a treatment like this, and I'm positive that us Canadians would be unable to access care like this; and, while I could be wrong, I suspect that any country that provided care for everyone that covers such extreme cases would rapidly bankrupt the country.



Soleron on 01 May 2011
HappySqurriel said:
Soleron said:

Increase the coverage of national healthcare until this inmate's treatment is normal. Like the UK's NHS ("socialised medicine").


Realistically, what portion of health services around the world cover treatments like this?

I'm fairly certain that very few people in the United States would have health insurance that covers a treatment like this, and I'm positive that us Canadians would be unable to access care like this; and, while I could be wrong, I suspect that any country that provided care for everyone that covers such extreme cases would rapidly bankrupt the country.

I think it might be just us that fund 100% of the treatment. Even France needs a contribution.

However such operations would have to come from the economy somehow, whether from the consumer or government as an emergency case, so I don't see how the government covering it is much worse. You just need vastly higher taxes. The upside is that universal coverage means everyone gets the treatment when they need it to a reasonable standard which means the working population is healthly enough to pay tax. Unlike the US where a series of bare-minimum operations will keep someone alive but not able to work.



Kirameo on 01 May 2011
dib8rman said:

Am I the only one that thinks maybe the real shame here is that the bill is so high?

I mean humans are like beat up cars now-a-days the parts are more expensive than the whole thing.


You are correct. The whole issue is a sympton of a broken system.



 

Kasz216 on 01 May 2011
rocketpig said:
Galaki said:
rocketpig said:
Galaki said:
richardhutnik said:

Death Panels for the win!

And then send the family a bill for the bullet.

Criminals deserve care. Yes. But there has to be a breaking point.

This man ruined children's lives, in which, I don't see why we have to treat him equally as everyone else. Why treat a monster as a human?

Define monster and who gets this care and who doesn't. Is a rapist a monster? How about a person nine years into a ten year sentence for possession with intent to sell? Is he a monster?

Where do you draw the line and who gets to draw it?


Raping is child... it is quite monsterous to me.

Sometime, drawing the line is not to be considered. There are shades of grey in life and we should use our judgement to help out. Not all things have to be black or white. That's where the law fail, IMO.

That's exactly my point. The government always fails when given the opportunity to have some leeway or decision-making power in situations like this. Some might consider that drug dealer to be a "monster" and may have him essentially put to death even though he's going to be free in a year or two. Others might show compassion for that monster rapist and let him have the surgery.

Again, who gets to make this call and why do you think that giving the government the right to make this decision will work in THIS situation when they almost universally fail in all others?

Remember that this is the same system that, through the use of guidelines and rules, often rewards  murderers with lower sentences than repeat drug violations.

Indeed... the main failing of government.

Though a needed failing really, otherwise there would be even more rampant "cronyism."

It's like those judges just recently, who were found guilty of taking bribes from private prisons to "steer" certain prisoners towards them and others away.