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richardhutnik said:
kitler53 said:

so you are making a forum post to tell people of your opinion that making forums posts to express opinions is stupid.   did i get that right?

do you understand that people enjoy expressing their opinions?  would you like me to link you to a dictionary definition of the word passion or maybe hobby? 

It is one thing to end up enjoying and having a passion for something.  It is another to make oneself a partisan who shills and spins in favor of a given console, and engage in a war for the minds of people.  Stuff like, "Playstation is a religion" and also the "B_E_L_I_E_V_E" sig people were running awhile ago. 

Guys who go online and post stuff like this on the Youtube:

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And this:

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Shill and do stuff like this.  They look a lot like this, but don't get paid (Sony hired an ad company to do this):

 

 


eh, i know a girl who got a doctoral degree in the subject of medieval string.  who am i (or you) to judge what over people get passionate over?  i mean, you have over 6,000 posts here at VGC which quite frankly (i would approximate) 99.9% of the world population would say is a stupid hobby/passion.  don't judge less you want to be judged yourself.



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richardhutnik said:

Just a reminder here.  Being an partisan for a game console of your choice, and posting on forums like this is an unpaid job.  Corporations who make the console your choice do not pay you if you shill their products and games shamelessly.  They also don't compensate you if you go forth and post false information that would benefit your console.  If you were to side with Sony against Anonymous, and post something clearly in error about Anonymous, no one is going to pay you for this.  If you even win people over to your console of choice through your words, you don't get compensated.  If you inprove the bottom line of the corporation that makes the console of your choice, you don't get paid for it.

In short, operating as a marketing stooge for a company of your choices is unpaid work, isn't something that can be listed on your resume, and in the end won't matter if your company of choice ends up leaving the videogame industry completely aqnd stop making a console.  Sega and Atari fans can testify to this fact.

so your point is anonymous are paid and were not so that means their arguments are justified and ours are not?

anyways, as far as i know, anonymous do not get paid either....unless geo hot sent them a bit of dough.



Seece said:
BenVTrigger said:

People are gonna jump on you for this but I couldn't agree more.

I'm sick of the blatent bias in so many posters on here.  Sure everyone is going to have favorite games and consoles and thats fine and they should be allowed to express that.

But the amount of relentless bashing and tearing down of other sytems and game franchises just because you don't like them is getting old.  I'm tired of going into a pro-360 thread and constantly seeing people post about Uncharted, Killzone, and God of War.  Same thing with going into a Killzone thread and seeing Halo brought up instantly.

What's worse is you can't even call them out for what they are, or report it.

Please, you can call out the fanboys, yu can call out the trolls, you just can't insult them. I don't know what's more annoying the people who call people haters because posters disagree with them or the the people who thik they are so different.



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RolStoppable said:

I take pride in being Nintendo's lapdog.


Amen.



 

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psrock said:
Seece said:

What's worse is you can't even call them out for what they are, or report it.

Please, you can call out the fanboys, yu can call out the trolls, you just can't insult them. I don't know what's more annoying the people who call people haters because posters disagree with them or the the people who thik they are so different.

Fanboy/Troll = insult, and debating with them most of the time is just a waste of time.

What's your last line suppose to mean? It's obvious fanboy mentality to do that ....



 

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Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

What's worse is you can't even call them out for what they are, or report it.

Please, you can call out the fanboys, yu can call out the trolls, you just can't insult them. I don't know what's more annoying the people who call people haters because posters disagree with them or the the people who thik they are so different.

Fanboy/Troll = insult, and debating with them most of the time is just a waste of time.

What's your last line suppose to mean? It's obvious fanboy mentality to do that ....

you feel calling them fanboys or troll would have been a better alternative. 



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psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

What's worse is you can't even call them out for what they are, or report it.

Please, you can call out the fanboys, yu can call out the trolls, you just can't insult them. I don't know what's more annoying the people who call people haters because posters disagree with them or the the people who thik they are so different.

Fanboy/Troll = insult, and debating with them most of the time is just a waste of time.

What's your last line suppose to mean? It's obvious fanboy mentality to do that ....

you feel calling them fanboys or troll would have been a better alternative. 

Oh I get it, you're trying to lump me in with that crowd. That's funny because as much as I'm an Xbox/MS fan I think I'm pretty damn reasonable, more so than you actually.

I'm actually proud I'm one of the few xbox fans here that can say MS are doing a really shit job right now. Hey, at least I don't have an orgasm when they ship more than I thought they would.



 

Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

What's worse is you can't even call them out for what they are, or report it.

Please, you can call out the fanboys, yu can call out the trolls, you just can't insult them. I don't know what's more annoying the people who call people haters because posters disagree with them or the the people who thik they are so different.

Fanboy/Troll = insult, and debating with them most of the time is just a waste of time.

What's your last line suppose to mean? It's obvious fanboy mentality to do that ....

you feel calling them fanboys or troll would have been a better alternative. 

Oh I get it, you're trying to lump me in with that crowd. That's funny because as much as I'm an Xbox/MS fan I think I'm pretty damn reasonable, more so than you actually.

I'm actually proud I'm one of the few xbox fans here that can say MS are doing a really shit job right now. Hey at least I don't have an orgasm when they ship more than I thought they would.

You let Rol get to you, huh. No, I think all of us have fanboyish behaviors, some more , some less. I am not ashamed of it. 

It's not our jobs to be calling people trolls or fanboys. You are here to debate, have a conversation, if you disagree with someone, state it, prove them wrong. I have felt lately, a lot of fans have been calling others ( fanboys, trolls) because they felt they were being negative about the console they love. 



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psrock said:
Seece said:

Oh I get it, you're trying to lump me in with that crowd. That's funny because as much as I'm an Xbox/MS fan I think I'm pretty damn reasonable, more so than you actually.

I'm actually proud I'm one of the few xbox fans here that can say MS are doing a really shit job right now. Hey at least I don't have an orgasm when they ship more than I thought they would.

You let Rol get to you, huh. No, I think all of us have fanboyish behaviors, some more , some less. I am not ashamed of it. 

It's not our jobs to be calling people trolls or fanboys. You are here to debate, have a conversation, if you disagree with someone, state it, prove them wrong. I have felt lately, a lot of fans have been calling others ( fanboys, trolls) because they felt they were being negative about the console they love. 

I didn't see rols posts, and nothing he says gets to me, I love all his posts, anti seece/ms/xbox or not!

I don't think everyone has a bit of fanboy in them, but then I guess 'fanboy' can mean many things. To me it's someone that loves a company and intensly dislikes the competition. To others it's someone who's besotted with a company, no more no less.

With that in mind, like I said before, the fanboys I'm talking about, there is no point in debating because they'll always be right and their company of choice will always be the one that comes out on top.

And you end up with bullshit like 'Nintendo arnt bringing out games because they want us to save money'

Going back to my original point, those types of fanboys are no good for this site. Obsessive fans ... sometimes annoying (me and you included sometimes I imagin) but those rabbid types, yeah I think we should be able to call them out for what they are. They add nothing but a mess to the discussion.





 

Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

Oh I get it, you're trying to lump me in with that crowd. That's funny because as much as I'm an Xbox/MS fan I think I'm pretty damn reasonable, more so than you actually.

I'm actually proud I'm one of the few xbox fans here that can say MS are doing a really shit job right now. Hey at least I don't have an orgasm when they ship more than I thought they would.

You let Rol get to you, huh. No, I think all of us have fanboyish behaviors, some more , some less. I am not ashamed of it. 

It's not our jobs to be calling people trolls or fanboys. You are here to debate, have a conversation, if you disagree with someone, state it, prove them wrong. I have felt lately, a lot of fans have been calling others ( fanboys, trolls) because they felt they were being negative about the console they love. 

I didn't see rols posts, and nothing he says gets to me, I love all his posts, anti seece/ms/xbox or not!

I don't think everyone has a bit of fanboy in them, but then I guess 'fanboy' can mean many things. To me it's someone that loves a company and intensly dislikes the competition. To others it's someone who's besotted with a company, no more no less.

With that in mind, like I said before, the fanboys I'm talking about, there is no point in debating because they'll always be right and their company of choice will always be the one that comes out on top.

And you end up with bullshit like 'Nintendo arnt bringing out games because they want us to save money'

Going back to my original point, those types of fanboys are no good for this site. Obsessive fans ... sometimes annoying (me and you included sometimes I imagin) but those rabbid types, yeah I think we should be able to call them out for what they are. They add nothing but a mess to the discussion.



We actually have less of these people now. I actually miss some of them. At least they made things fun. Now, everyone's so defensive about everything. 

We had reall trolls in this site that were very distructive, now a days , it's mostly people being banned for calling someone a ( fanboy). 



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