Do you want me to rattle off the good games Ubisoft has done? It far outweighs the bad and this is why they can still compete against companies like act bliz and EA. 

They make fantastic games, hopefully this is one of them. Companies seem to be grappling with the Kinect and with things like Avatar Kinect apparently on the next update the tech is coming free to some companies.

I was referring specifically to motion games from Ubisoft..I never said or implied anything about Ubisoft overall.

Lets rephrase my first post since you are so sensitive...The concept looks interesting, but lets hope it doesnt end up feeling like a shovelware like their previous kinect based games - Fighters ungaged and Motion Sports

Ok I will put it this way, give me a definition of shovelware. What do you think shovelware is?

ps also weird thing. Shovelware is generally a word for games being ported from one to another Fighters UnCAGED and Motion Sports were neither. They were designed for the Kinect as its only purpose... You are seriously reaching it appears for reasons

@ bolded - key word there buddy. Another perfectly valid definition would be a title or titles that are just quickly smashed out the door with little care about the games quality.

Its ones OPINION, a thing u cant seem to accept. Plus even if we were to by the "general" definition, my opinion will still be valid because I was comparing it to a shovelware and not saying it was... "end up feeling like a shovelware".

G'day Ma'yte

The acting. My eyes.

You said it looked shovelware ish, also no need to be racial about this bud. 

Nothing about the video said it was "smashed out the door" so I would love to know where you are getting this from. The previous games you can put them up to experience, they tried to do something at the start but didn't have a big enough grasp to do it as well as they'd like. Hell with Fighters uncaged they didn't even have UFC's authority so they had to compromise.

Opinion is one thing, calling it something that you have no true basis on to form that opinion is quite another. If you show why you think it is shovelware-ish then state it. But if you dont its simply trolling the game which is quite a strange thing to do considering it hasnt been released yet...

Whatever either way, people are going out of their way to bring down Kinect by calling titles Shovelware without having playing them or even hell seeing trailers, most of this is clearly not you as I will expect you saw the trailer at least. But seriously... come on now the shovelware name calling must stop imo

1.shovelware-ish: Its just another way of saying technically, nearly the same as...should be obvious

Really... so if someone is called troll-ish they are allowed to.. I will let you ponder that one. 

2. You're confused: I nor anyone can deduce anything from a single game trailer like that. BUT my experience with ubisofts previous kinect games was like playing a shovelware (shovelware as in like a game that is rushed for the sake of making quick money). It is a valid basis to form an initial opinion of this video and the game.

So your experience with other games lets you help decide whether you will like this one... oooh that makes soooo much sense

3.You say ubisoft didnt have the experience to do a better quality fighters uncaged, fine I accept your opinion. But I reckon if they wanted it to they would extend the development time for the game, but they chose to release it anyway.

Some of my mates have said they really like it so i dunno. The reviews are wrong according to the people that I know that have played it so eh

4."Opinion is one thing, calling it something that you have no true basis on to form that opinion is quite another": This is just ridiculous, who decides what qualify as a true basis.LMFAO.I'm sorry until there is actual gameplay and actual preview, Im entitled to my opinion.

I said without reason and as Shovel-ware is derogatory then yes my statement stands. You can have the opinion thats fine, but dont spray it everywhere. You said in your own words that the trailer is not enough to decide either way, so unless there is one such an opinion is purely seemingly wishful

5.The last part is just you being ultra sensitive. I own and enjoy dance central and kinect sports. And come on, there is nothing racist about Australia's national greeting in an australan accent. You're an ozzie, u should know what real racism is, that is unless you're an immigrant or indigenous. But if you're offended then I apologise.

I said dont bring Racial into it, and the fact that my name is AussieGecko said that you did it for a reason, don't say I was being over sensitive over something that has nothing to do with the conversation ffs. You know well and truly that anyone would be offended over that, guess what indigenous people also settled here, everyone is an immigrant to an extent.

Dont start with history/ geography when you dont seem to know enough of it. Also don't make this personal which you clearly have tried to.