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Hapimeses on 10 April 2011
dsister said:
Hapimeses said:

Trouble in Paradise: See Ninja Blade.

That's Viva Pinata: trouble in Paradise ;) 

Gotcha! I knew that. Honest.

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epicberserk on 10 April 2011
Hapimeses said:
epicberserk said:

for  kinect upcoming games their is the stringer from twisted pixels their pretty much all their games are 360 exclusvies on xbox live arcade ........  you have sega kinect title comes out in august believe called nightmare it a m rated game , forza mortosport 4 has kinect features in it for october and few more by capcom mech assult .........

 

for controller games .... i would recommend Alan wake , prey , kameo, viva pinata, crackdown , gears of war 2 , and third that comes out in september , fable 2 , 3 , project gotham 3 and 4 , tales of vesperia , last remant , infinte undiscovery , ninja gaiden 2 ,

 

and if you go to a friend house who have a 360 you can download your gamertag to anyone 360 and then redownload it to your 360 when you get back home all you do is recover it ......

and gold members get alot of stuff that warrnts it party chat up to 8 people at once , private chat , twitter , facebook , last fm radio, usually gold members get access to demos first , and betas , all incentives are gold only

Thanks for the recommendations and the advice regarding the Gold account. And I didn't know about using your gamertag on another 360 (and I have several friends with 360s), so that's a brilliant wee extra. Thanks.

your welcome hope you enjoy your 360



Reasonable on 11 April 2011
Hapimeses said:
Reasonable said:

The only Kinect title I'd recommend given your OP out of the current crop you don't have is Kinect Sports.  For you perhaps Alan Wake, Lost Odyessey and some of the other more interesting exclusives would also be of interest.  If you haven't already played Mass Effect on PC then that's worth a look for sure.

As for Live, I wouldn't get it unless you know for sure you are going to play online on the 360.  If you're going to be mainly offline - i.e. you're sure you're going to stick with PC/PS3 for online - then although it isn't much money you won't be getting much for it either.

Live is very good for online, and with Gold you do get some other stuff - Facebook, Sky, Last FM, etc. - although TBH I don't think you should need Gold just to access online apps but I guess that's a bit off topic.

I have all 3 consoles and do pay for Live, but only because I (or my elder son) are online enough to justify it.

Your kids might like Joy Ride for Kinect, too, come to think of it.  I hate it having tried it, as did my kids, but they sound older and were annoyed at the wacky controls, however some friends with young kids say they find it a blast trying to steer with their hands - in my experience "trying" is the right term but hey they're having fun I guess.

Have you got Move? I'd be interested to read how Kinect Sports compares to Sports Champions. I'm quite a fan of the latter.

Your recommendations re. Live seems solid to me. As it stands, I'm thinking a single Live account (or maybe two -- one for my wife and one for me) may be best for the whole family, compared to the four PSN accounts that we have (each racking up their own trophies). Do you have any recommendations there?

As for Joy Ride, I think my eldest would quickly get annoyed if the controls are dodgy (she really likes ModNation Racers, for example), but my youngest, only being four, wouldn't care either way. If the game is good, I'll pick it up. But, if it's just a bit of silly fun that quickly frustrates I'll avoid it, I think.

Thanks for dropping in with your recommendations.

Yes, I have Move.  The difference I'd say is for sports Move feels more precise and there's more of a sense of competition, whereas Kinect Sports feels more fun and a little looser.  I think both are good and I'm sure your family would enjoy Kinect Sports.

As I see it so far Move is very good for anything involving a raquet or holding something (surprise surprise) and Kinect is very good for stuff that works of your whole body.

Also, I'd avoid Joy Ride give your comments as I think you'd dislike it like I would.  It's awful next to say Modnation Racers (which my kids love, too).

If you wanted to be really picky, then on my experience the titles that work (would work) best Move/Kinect are:

Move

  • FPS/TPS (based on Killzone and Resident Evil 5)
  • Sports with raquets or holding something like a frisbee (based on Sports Champions)
  • Swordplay or Wands based stuff (Based on Sports Champions and previews of Sorcery and common sense)
  • Stuff like Tumble, Echochrome 2 (based on playing the games noted)

Kinect

  • Fitness (Based on trying out the fitness title for Kinect)
  • Dancing (Based on Dance Central)
  • Sports based around body - volleyball would work well with it for example, running, jumping, etc. (Based on Kinect Sports)
  • Guesture based interfaces (based on Kinectimals and the interface itself)

 

BTW if you have Sky you can set up your 360 (with Live account) to stream Sky channels you have to your 360, which can be useful if its in another room from your Sky Box.  I don't use it much myself but my kids do sometimes and they say it works well when they 360 is in their room.



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Hapimeses on 11 April 2011
epicberserk said:
Hapimeses said:
epicberserk said:

for  kinect upcoming games their is the stringer from twisted pixels their pretty much all their games are 360 exclusvies on xbox live arcade ........  you have sega kinect title comes out in august believe called nightmare it a m rated game , forza mortosport 4 has kinect features in it for october and few more by capcom mech assult .........

 

for controller games .... i would recommend Alan wake , prey , kameo, viva pinata, crackdown , gears of war 2 , and third that comes out in september , fable 2 , 3 , project gotham 3 and 4 , tales of vesperia , last remant , infinte undiscovery , ninja gaiden 2 ,

 

and if you go to a friend house who have a 360 you can download your gamertag to anyone 360 and then redownload it to your 360 when you get back home all you do is recover it ......

and gold members get alot of stuff that warrnts it party chat up to 8 people at once , private chat , twitter , facebook , last fm radio, usually gold members get access to demos first , and betas , all incentives are gold only

Thanks for the recommendations and the advice regarding the Gold account. And I didn't know about using your gamertag on another 360 (and I have several friends with 360s), so that's a brilliant wee extra. Thanks.

your welcome hope you enjoy your 360

I'm sure I will. There's certainly a lot for to to consider in terms of what we'll buy or pick up from LoveFilm. Thanks, again.



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epicberserk on 11 April 2011
Hapimeses said:
epicberserk said:
Hapimeses said:
epicberserk said:

for  kinect upcoming games their is the stringer from twisted pixels their pretty much all their games are 360 exclusvies on xbox live arcade ........  you have sega kinect title comes out in august believe called nightmare it a m rated game , forza mortosport 4 has kinect features in it for october and few more by capcom mech assult .........

 

for controller games .... i would recommend Alan wake , prey , kameo, viva pinata, crackdown , gears of war 2 , and third that comes out in september , fable 2 , 3 , project gotham 3 and 4 , tales of vesperia , last remant , infinte undiscovery , ninja gaiden 2 ,

 

and if you go to a friend house who have a 360 you can download your gamertag to anyone 360 and then redownload it to your 360 when you get back home all you do is recover it ......

and gold members get alot of stuff that warrnts it party chat up to 8 people at once , private chat , twitter , facebook , last fm radio, usually gold members get access to demos first , and betas , all incentives are gold only

Thanks for the recommendations and the advice regarding the Gold account. And I didn't know about using your gamertag on another 360 (and I have several friends with 360s), so that's a brilliant wee extra. Thanks.

your welcome hope you enjoy your 360

I'm sure I will. There's certainly a lot for to to consider in terms of what we'll buy or pick up from LoveFilm. Thanks, again.



your welcome u can always add me on xbox live if u want epicberserk3r



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Hapimeses on 11 April 2011
Reasonable said:

Yes, I have Move.  The difference I'd say is for sports Move feels more precise and there's more of a sense of competition, whereas Kinect Sports feels more fun and a little looser.  I think both are good and I'm sure your family would enjoy Kinect Sports.

Thanks. That's exactly the sort of recommendation I was looking for. I'll have a scout around to see if I can see the game on the cheap anywhere.

Reasonable said:

Also, I'd avoid Joy Ride give your comments as I think you'd dislike it like I would.  It's awful next to say Modnation Racers (which my kids love, too).

Again, thanks. I'll be avoiding that.

Reasonable said:

If you wanted to be really picky, then on my experience the titles that work (would work) best Move/Kinect are:

Move

  • FPS/TPS (based on Killzone and Resident Evil 5)
  • Sports with raquets or holding something like a frisbee (based on Sports Champions)
  • Swordplay or Wands based stuff (Based on Sports Champions and previews of Sorcery and common sense)
  • Stuff like Tumble, Echochrome 2 (based on playing the games noted)

Kinect

  • Fitness (Based on trying out the fitness title for Kinect)
  • Dancing (Based on Dance Central)
  • Sports based around body - volleyball would work well with it for example, running, jumping, etc. (Based on Kinect Sports)
  • Guesture based interfaces (based on Kinectimals and the interface itself)

That all makes sense to me, and is largely what I had come to believe was the case. Basically, one is good for 'games' and the other is good for 'experiences', if I'm to paint with a ridiculously wide brush stroke to portray a fairly complicated situation. Perfecto.

Reasonable said:

BTW if you have Sky you can set up your 360 (with Live account) to stream Sky channels you have to your 360, which can be useful if its in another room from your Sky Box.  I don't use it much myself but my kids do sometimes and they say it works well when they 360 is in their room.

Nice feature, but no Sky here unfortunately.

Again, thanks for all the opinions. Very useful.



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Hapimeses on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:

pre-order child of eden.


Y'know, I've been thinking about that. I was previously happy to try this out with Move (assuming it is still being released on PS3), but I think it will probably be better on Kinect.



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Hapimeses on 11 April 2011
epicberserk said:
Hapimeses said:
epicberserk said:
Hapimeses said:
epicberserk said:

for  kinect upcoming games their is the stringer from twisted pixels their pretty much all their games are 360 exclusvies on xbox live arcade ........  you have sega kinect title comes out in august believe called nightmare it a m rated game , forza mortosport 4 has kinect features in it for october and few more by capcom mech assult .........

 

for controller games .... i would recommend Alan wake , prey , kameo, viva pinata, crackdown , gears of war 2 , and third that comes out in september , fable 2 , 3 , project gotham 3 and 4 , tales of vesperia , last remant , infinte undiscovery , ninja gaiden 2 ,

 

and if you go to a friend house who have a 360 you can download your gamertag to anyone 360 and then redownload it to your 360 when you get back home all you do is recover it ......

and gold members get alot of stuff that warrnts it party chat up to 8 people at once , private chat , twitter , facebook , last fm radio, usually gold members get access to demos first , and betas , all incentives are gold only

Thanks for the recommendations and the advice regarding the Gold account. And I didn't know about using your gamertag on another 360 (and I have several friends with 360s), so that's a brilliant wee extra. Thanks.

your welcome hope you enjoy your 360

I'm sure I will. There's certainly a lot for to to consider in terms of what we'll buy or pick up from LoveFilm. Thanks, again.



your welcome u can always add me on xbox live if u want epicberserk3r


Y'know, I may very well do that, though the 360 won't be arriving for another week yet. :(



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ArnoldRimmer on 11 April 2011
Hapimeses said:
dsister said:

The only Kinect game you are lacking that is out right now is Kinect Sports. It's a good pick-up. Before I give you any more suggestions I'm going to need to know what kind of games you and your family like 

How is Kinect Sports? Do you (or anyone else) know how it compares to Sports Champions (the Move game -- I have that already)? If it's recommended enough, I'll certainly pick it up. Sports Champions, for example, is a brilliant little game.

The only good Kinect games you don't already own are Kinect Sports and Your Shape. Your Shape is a fitness/workout game similar to Wii Fit, but just SO MUCH better. It's my personal favourite Kinect "game" and easily the best fitness/workout game out there, and from a technical point of view I'd say it's even the best showcase for the Kinect hardware.

Kinect Sports is the most successful Kinect game and just everyone seems to love it, so you probably won't regret buying it. I actually seem to be the only exception, because I own Wii Sports Resort and Sports Champions as well and with those in mind, Kinect Sports completely failed to impress me. First of all I think the selection of sports is... well, "unfavorable": Four of the six sports in the game are hand-/arm-centric (table tennis, bowling, volleyball, boxing). These sports are better with a handheld motion controller like the Wii Remote or the PS Move, because they have less lag and are much more precise and accurate. Personally, I would always choose the Wii/PS Move counterparts of those sports if I wanted to play them. Of the two sports remaining, the hurdles race had me bored almost instantly. Football however seemed really nice! Leg tracking is Kinect's big strength, so football was a very good decision. The only problem was that I have problems with my knee, and after a single game of football my knee already hurt so bad I had to stop. Bad luck...

Since you specifically asked for a comparison with Sports Champions, I think they are very different. Sports Champions is all about precision and accuracy, while Kinect Sports is all about being easily accessible and forgiving to not frustrate the casual players it's targeting at.
Table tennis is a good example, since it's in both games: The Sports Champions version is very picky about the player's motions, especially in the harder difficulty levels. If you don't do the motions accurately, you probably won't even hit the table. Hold the bat slightly different and the ball will behave different. Kinect Sports table tennis on the other hand can be best compared to Wii Sports tennis: The actual motion seemed almost irrelevant, as long as I did any motion in the right moment everything was fine.
So it's very simply and doesn't have much depth, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun with it. Just remember how much fun people had with the original Wii Sports Tennis despite the fact that it was just waggle controls. Just like Wii Sports, I think Kinect Sports is best when played casually with people who've never played it before and who usually don't even play video games (for example a party with chicks or a family evening with grandma, parents, uncle etc. around).



Hapimeses on 11 April 2011
ArnoldRimmer said:

The only good Kinect games you don't already own are Kinect Sports and Your Shape. Your Shape is a fitness/workout game similar to Wii Fit, but just SO MUCH better. It's my personal favourite Kinect "game" and easily the best fitness/workout game out there, and from a technical point of view I'd say it's even the best showcase for the Kinect hardware.

Is your shape really that good?

Currently we use EA Sports Active on PS3, and it's alright. Have you tried that? Do you have any idea how they compare? I feel no desire to immediately buy another fitness game, but if Your Shape is that good, I'm more than willing to be persuaded.

ArnoldRimmer said:

Kinect Sports is the most successful Kinect game and just everyone seems to love it, so you probably won't regret buying it. I actually seem to be the only exception, because I own Wii Sports Resort and Sports Champions as well and with those in mind, Kinect Sports completely failed to impress me. First of all I think the selection of sports is... well, "unfavorable": Four of the six sports in the game are hand-/arm-centric (table tennis, bowling, volleyball, boxing). These sports are better with a handheld motion controller like the Wii Remote or the PS Move, because they have less lag and are much more precise and accurate. Personally, I would always choose the Wii/PS Move counterparts of those sports if I wanted to play them. Of the two sports remaining, the hurdles race had me bored almost instantly. Football however seemed really nice! Leg tracking is Kinect's big strength, so football was a very good decision. The only problem was that I have problems with my knee, and after a single game of football my knee already hurt so bad I had to stop. Bad luck...

Since you specifically asked for a comparison with Sports Champions, I think they are very different. Sports Champions is all about precision and accuracy, while Kinect Sports is all about being easily accessible and forgiving to not frustrate the casual players it's targeting at.
Table tennis is a good example, since it's in both games: The Sports Champions version is very picky about the player's motions, especially in the harder difficulty levels. If you don't do the motions accurately, you probably won't even hit the table. Hold the bat slightly different and the ball will behave different. Kinect Sports table tennis on the other hand can be best compared to Wii Sports tennis: The actual motion seemed almost irrelevant, as long as I did any motion in the right moment everything was fine.

So it's very simply and doesn't have much depth, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun with it. Just remember how much fun people had with the original Wii Sports Tennis despite the fact that it was just waggle controls. Just like Wii Sports, I think Kinect Sports is best when played casually with people who've never played it before and who usually don't even play video games (for example a party with chicks or a family evening with grandma, parents, uncle etc. around).

Hmm. Now I'm not so sure about it. My youngest will certainly appreciate an easy game as you describe, but my eldest has kinda grown used to the precision of Move. I think I'll only pick it up if I spot it on the cheap -- that seems to make most sense to me.

Thank you very much for dropping in. That was some very useful info.

 

 

 



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