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HappySqurriel said:


A teenager buying their own "stuff" is different from a parent buying their teenager stuff ... and a parent who decides that no handhelds are going to be in his house and his children will have iPhones will likely be buying these products for their children.

Beyond that, having been a teenager myself, dealt with enough teenagers in my life, and known enough parents it has become clear that anything a teen has is far more likely to be broken or lost then it is for their parents. Some of this is simply because of the activities the two groups take part in, for example a teenager is far more likely to break their iPhone while skate-boarding than their parent is walking to their car.

And talk to any Apple Store sales person about how many broken iPhone customer service issues they've had to respond to due to a "I sat on my phone and now it's broken" or "I dropped my phone in the toilet and now it doesn't work," from adults, and you're likely to get an arm's list of amusing anecdotes.

While it's great that you automatically assume all teens don't take care of their stuff, they go around breaking expensive goods whether they are personal possessions, earned or given, or on loan, your opinion is hardly a reflection of reality.



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greenmedic88 said:
HappySqurriel said:
 


A teenager buying their own "stuff" is different from a parent buying their teenager stuff ... and a parent who decides that no handhelds are going to be in his house and his children will have iPhones will likely be buying these products for their children.

Beyond that, having been a teenager myself, dealt with enough teenagers in my life, and known enough parents it has become clear that anything a teen has is far more likely to be broken or lost then it is for their parents. Some of this is simply because of the activities the two groups take part in, for example a teenager is far more likely to break their iPhone while skate-boarding than their parent is walking to their car.

And talk to any Apple Store sales person about how many broken iPhone customer service issues they've had to respond to due to a "I sat on my phone and now it's broken" or "I dropped my phone in the toilet and now it doesn't work," from adults, and you're likely to get an arm's list of amusing anecdotes.

While it's great that you automatically assume all teens don't take care of their stuff, they go around breaking expensive goods whether they are personal possessions, earned or given, or on loan, your opinion is hardly a reflection of reality.


We'll see ...

I would just bet that he'll be replacing one of the two cellphones within 12 to 18 months due to it breaking or being lost.



All you talking about how can you possibly give an expensive phone to a teenager, certainly have no problem giving a $250 3DS to a 8 year old.  Most of the kids I see playing on a handheld are under 10.  I think it is just as risky to give a young kid a 3DS or an NGP. Hell even a regular DSi given to an young kid is just as risky if not more.

You will probably say well yeah it isnt bright to give a young kid a $250 device.   Well that is a huge part of Nintendo's market.  I dont see the 3DS or the NGP ever having the impact of the DS because it is attacked from less demand by older kids because of phones and less attractive for parents of younger kids because of pricing.

Also by the way our family plan for our phones has insurance that only costs us a few bucks per month.   And by the way I have seen just as many adults screw up there phones as teens.  My 50 year old sister hopped in the pool with her iphone in the pocket of her swimsuit.    She isnt the only adult that I know that has done that.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:

All you talking about how can you possibly give an expensive phone to a teenager, certainly have no problem giving a $250 3DS to a 8 year old.  Most of the kids I see playing on a handheld are under 10.  I think it is just as risky to give a young kid a 3DS or an NGP. Hell even a regular DSi given to an young kid is just as risky if not more.

You will probably say well yeah it isnt bright to give a young kid a $250 device.   Well that is a huge part of Nintendo's market.  I dont see the 3DS or the NGP ever having the impact of the DS because it is attacked from less demand by older kids because of phones and less attractive for parents of younger kids because of pricing.

Also by the way our family plan for our phones has insurance that only costs us a few bucks per month.   And by the way I have seen just as many adults screw up there phones as teens.  My 50 year old sister hopped in the pool with her iphone in the pocket of her swimsuit.    She isnt the only adult that I know that has done that.

That's true the 3DS was a step in the rong direction.  Im still happy they made that step.   Will they pay a hardware price for it. Yes.

 

With new competition and this bad move they will only sell 80 million 3DS.  when do we say its no longer worth Nintendo's time and money to produce such a device?   if they sell only 20 million? 

OK but If they sell 20 million 3DS and sell 20 million Pokemon games ever year, how much money are they losing? Will Nintendo ever totaly Pwn/own a gen like they just did? No   But they still will remain market leaders.  Why?

Cause they arn't in this bisness for bisness-sake like its rivals. 



thx1139 said:

All you talking about how can you possibly give an expensive phone to a teenager, certainly have no problem giving a $250 3DS to a 8 year old.  Most of the kids I see playing on a handheld are under 10.  I think it is just as risky to give a young kid a 3DS or an NGP. Hell even a regular DSi given to an young kid is just as risky if not more.

You will probably say well yeah it isnt bright to give a young kid a $250 device.   Well that is a huge part of Nintendo's market.  I dont see the 3DS or the NGP ever having the impact of the DS because it is attacked from less demand by older kids because of phones and less attractive for parents of younger kids because of pricing.

Also by the way our family plan for our phones has insurance that only costs us a few bucks per month.   And by the way I have seen just as many adults screw up there phones as teens.  My 50 year old sister hopped in the pool with her iphone in the pocket of her swimsuit.    She isnt the only adult that I know that has done that.




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HappySqurriel said:
thx1139 said:

All you talking about how can you possibly give an expensive phone to a teenager, certainly have no problem giving a $250 3DS to a 8 year old.  Most of the kids I see playing on a handheld are under 10.  I think it is just as risky to give a young kid a 3DS or an NGP. Hell even a regular DSi given to an young kid is just as risky if not more.

You will probably say well yeah it isnt bright to give a young kid a $250 device.   Well that is a huge part of Nintendo's market.  I dont see the 3DS or the NGP ever having the impact of the DS because it is attacked from less demand by older kids because of phones and less attractive for parents of younger kids because of pricing.

Also by the way our family plan for our phones has insurance that only costs us a few bucks per month.   And by the way I have seen just as many adults screw up there phones as teens.  My 50 year old sister hopped in the pool with her iphone in the pocket of her swimsuit.    She isnt the only adult that I know that has done that.


That thing is indestructable. They don't make electronics that durable anymore.



The BIGGER threat is Windows Phone 7.  Three screens and a cloud ... OF DOOM!



Darth Tigris said:

The BIGGER threat is Windows Phone 7.  Three screens and a cloud ... OF DOOM!



Lol.