How many Nukes have you built with that guide, since it is the tell all blueprint to crafting them?

The point is,  to build your own nuclear weapon you need a lot of resources at your disposal.  There is a reason not every country in the world has Nukes at their disposal.   Despite how easy you would think it is.  Instructions alone is probably the easiest part of the process.

The point where it's an issue is you have someone who has claimed not to do anything illegal while cracking the PS3 (Piracy, etc) , while simultaneously and obviously released codes to the rest of the internet (For his obvious intent) (to financially harm Sony via Piracy).   You're absolutely bat shit crazy if you don't think Sony  (Or the Bank we've been referring to)  is going to come after him legally and attempt anything they can find to bust him for something illegal.

Everyone seems to assume he is innocent because all he did is release the codes (If that's all he did, I have no doubt that he will win this case against Sony). However, I also believe that he took it further (I'm a realist).  I completely believe that there were definitely piracy motives (Especially after releasing the codes)  to his decision making and it wasn't just all earnest and honest 'jailbreaking'.   

This is why and what Sony is going to attack him for.   People are missing the point if releasing the codes are illegal or not.  Sony is coming after him knowing the liklihood that there was a legitimate crime committed that he could be proven guilty on. 

As for his "ulterior motives".  This is the same guy who jailbroke the Iphone.  There were no ulterior piracy motives there. 

That's odd.  That must be why Apple went to court trying to stop Jailbreaking from getting a DMCA Exception, right?  They just felt it was to their benefit and that there was no piracy to be found right?

Again,  you want me to believe this fairy tale unrealistic viewpoint. Sure Geohot didn't release an official custom firmware that 'allows' piracy.  He would then catagorically be proven guilty in this situation.   That's essentially walking to the police station and admitting a crime.   That's retarded.      He knows full well that piracy is entailed with what he is doing  (And in my opinion he atleast explored this to find out how it could be done). 

Ofcourse piracy of games is one of the reasons to Jailbreak a system of this nature,  or cheating in games, etc.   It's one of the negative side effects but it is definitely one of the known, desired outcomes. 

Kasz216 said:

And yet.. he wasn't convicted eh?  Whether piracy or not is around is completely pointless.

Also.  Not he wouldn't be catagorically found guilty.

Yes he would. If he released a firmware designed with piracy in mind and admitted as much, he most certainly would. 

Piracy being one of the outcomes is... completely irrelevent.

The only time something providing or making something that has illegal uses is relevent is when there are zero legal applications.

Afterall, kitchen knives have the illegal use of stabbing no?

Stabbing someone with a kitchen knife is one of the known negative effects that some people desire... right?

Again,  you can name an example like that. 

I can name an example of a restaurant who gets in legal trouble because a patron who legally bought alcohol, drank too much and ended up driving (on his own accord)  and killing someone while intoxicated.   It's not the restaurants fault that he drank too much,  drank too much without a ride,  drove drunk,  nor is it their responsibility to make sure that he has a way of safely getting home.

Sony literally does this all the time.  LOTS of companies do.

Ofcourse they do.   A.)  For intimadation like you said ,   B.)   Searching for anything they can manage to include as illegal and win a case on,  C.)  Because they have a whole arsenal of attorneys on payroll that it's no skin off their back really.

I don't think we're really disagreeing on much,  I don't have a moral dislike for Geohot.  I just do believe that he did it (Atleast partially)  with piracy motives (And I think you're being intentionally obtuse for saying otherwise).    I don't even mind him Jailbreaking things, but if he did it with piracy in mind (And Sony can show or prove this,  he will be in legal trouble).

Restruants DON'T get into legal trouble for that though.

Also, I'm completely failing to see your point then.

Though, intention is completely pointless. 

Also near impossible to prove.  I mean, it's not like playing an image of a CD is illegal.  It's only illegal if you don't own the game it was produced off of.

Restruants DON'T get into legal trouble for that though.

Also, I'm completely failing to see your point then.

Though, intention is completely pointless. 

Also near impossible to prove.  I mean, it's not like playing an image of a CD is illegal.  It's only illegal if you don't own the game it was produced off of.

Yes,  they do.   That's a big reason why you get 'shut-off' at bars. 

My point is,  Geohot probably committed an offense during the Jailbreak process.  He probably atleast attempted something pertaining to piracy,  why wouldn't he?   If he infact did,  he is guilty of what they are saying he is guilty of.  It's just funny to me how people around here run around and try to make this some moral crusade about how Geohot would never do anything like that, and I think it's completely false and funny.   Ofcourse, Geohot probably pirates music, movies, games, etc.   

I don't personally care that he did it, it doesn't affect me one way or another and I'm not against piracy in all fashions but I do believe he is guilty, if only a small bit.

Yes,  they do.   That's a big reason why you get 'shut-off' at bars. 

My point is,  Geohot probably committed an offense during the Jailbreak process.  He probably atleast attempted something pertaining to piracy,  why wouldn't he?   If he infact did,  he is guilty of what they are saying he is guilty of.  It's just funny to me how people around here run around and try to make this some moral crusade about how Geohot would never do anything like that, and I think it's completely false and funny.   Ofcourse, Geohot probably pirates music, movies, games, etc.   

I don't personally care that he did it, it doesn't affect me one way or another and I'm not against piracy in all fashions but I do believe he is guilty, if only a small bit.