| Baalzamon said: 1.) I've already explained perfectly what I can about the gork, how I originally thought nothing of it, and I eventually came to think it could mean something. There was no scumminess about my changing opinions on the topic, but there is scumminess in continuing to go on and on about it when others insist you stop, until Heph finally put the cabosh on things. I would have never pushed an argument this far in the last game, ever. I would have mentioned it briefly, and for the most part, let it go after that, as I was afraid to look bad. 2.) In regards to the s on assets, it was a spelling mistake, as I've made clear already. There was no intention of sounding scummy by accidentally adding an s to the end of this. Labeling myself as an "asset" in the first place, was, however, intended to sound at least a little scummy, but I felt the tradeoff for what this can potentially offer the townies in the future in regards for possible evidence far outweighed me looking a little scummier, granted I didn't think this would lead to me being potentially lynched on the first day already. If this is what it really takes for any potential evidence to become worthy of discussion, though, then so be it, lynch me, but please don't make it all wasted effort on my behalf, as it is rather insulting to put this much thought and time into a game only for all effort to mean nothing. |
1. So you deliberately continued on and on about the idea? In what way should that be construed as scummy? This is first day, and people are willing to latch on to anything. I don't see how you could have come to the conclusion that continuing on about a subject is scummy. Do you have a reference for that? Last game was your first game, right? How did you "learn" that continuing about a subject was scummy? Because it didn't happen last game.
Additionally, I've re-read the thread (specifically the part you are referring to). To summarise:
1.Hat commented we should drop it.
2. Radish then said, "we shouldn't have gotten so carried away".
3. Zexen agreed with Hatmoza.
4. Then both I and Hatmoza brought up points related to the gorky thing, and dsis said, "can we just drop the gork thing please".
5.You responded by asking, "so what do you want to talk about then?".
6.Radish and dsis then both commented that it was pointless.
7.You then said, "I still found it to be interesting discussion that could lead to something, but it seems it has fallen apart and doesn't have any importance, so it was all a waste of my thinking."
After that you didn't mention it again. Looking at it again, you didn't even comment on it once people asked for it to stop.
This contrasts with your "I never would have pushed an argument this far into the game, ever".
In fact, like I said earlier, about your "persistence" not being scummy, it was this post by Radish that has seemed to clue you in on the "scumminess of continuing a closed topic".
Radish: "After I said it, the discussion on the flavour continued ("what else can we talk about") - so I hardly said it after the discussion stopped."
Radish is notoriously wrong about things. The flavour discussion was not continuing at all. You asked what we should talk about. I see that as neither scummy, nor continuing the flavour discussion.
wonk agrees here:
"baal said "gotta talk about something" and "what do you want to discuss then" both after you post and if you call that the discussion continuing I think it would only be to make it look like your post was worth something when it wasn't"
Furthermore, you wrote that you were trying to play more scummy here:
"Baalzamon said:
Final-Fan said:
Yeah, and I was impressed. So when you seem much worse in this game, I wonder if it's because you're scum and panicking under pressure. |
Well, I was informed after last game I acted far too innocent, and needed to act scummier as a townie. So what do I do, I act scummier, and then what happens, I suck at acting scummier, and it leads to massive amounts of suspicion against me day 1. I really know no other way to describe my behavior this game.
According to this post, I don't see how your assertion that your acting scummy was about continuing the discussion. It was about your reactions and responses, not your flavour discussion.
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As for 2) I think that the pluralized asset thing is a little overblown. I could potentially see that when you said "assets" it was meant as a category label. So, to me, it doesn't seem like such a big deal.
To wrap it up, I'd also like to know why you'd blame me for saying, "townies need to act a little scummy", when you never asked for examples, guidance, etc. I don't see such a natural talent as yourself attempting something you have no real understanding of. You've only played one game. You don't know what's scummy, and if you did I don't see you knowing any examples of allowable scumminess. Townie scumminess is like hammering a townie. Townie scumminess is lurking. Townie scumminess is doing something scummy enough to make you look like possible scum, but not enough of a sure thing to warrant a lynch.
If I will see you lynched, it will be for all that, not anything else. I sincerely doubt you "tried" to act scummy.
However, I will unvote for now
unvote;
because I think wonk might be on to something with radish. Baal, you never continued flavour discussion. It was others that did. Radish accused YOU specifically of doing so, and that irks me.
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