| superchunk said: I think you have a poor question as in reality its a combination of all of this. You'll have those purely lucky on the basis of being born into the right family. Those are people like royalty and such. Then you have those that had that lucky family and did enough work to keep it going and even grow the wealth. These people have some luck as well as some basic work. Someone like Paris Hilton fits this category. She has wealth and was able to get into the right crowds with her family, but she has done enough basic work to continue that trend. (tv acting and marketing of herself) Then you have those that really demonstrated concentrated effort to get to where they are. I think your examples as well as those shown by others clearly fit this. M.Jordan (as well as most other sport greats), M.Jackson (as well as other great artists), B.Gates (as well as many other great business people). These people all have some basic raw talent, but also worked very hard to achieve greatness. It wasn't handed to them. M.Jordan would not have been able to get 6 trophies in NBA, countless other awards, NCAA trophies and awards, known as a fiere competitor, by far the most business deals of any sports person (only one to still have full clothing after retirement), etc, etc... without a lot of very hard work. M.Ohr is a bad example as there are plenty of top athletes from the ghetto that are worth a lot. I could continue with many other examples, but to generalize it as you did is really not fair to the great number of those who have worked their assess off to get where they are. |
Thing is that there are plenty who also work their asses off and don't end up anywhere in life. They got dealt a series of bad breaks, and guessed wrong in light of incomplete information. The deciding factor for them going on to be hugely successful (rich or famous) was a series of breaks that they had nothing to do with. And then, one asks where did the person get the make up to actually work their asses off? Where in their make up did this come from? Exactly how much did they bring into themselves, or the environment?
And Michael Jordan as a basketball executive has hardly been a success. The NBA team he owns now is hardly a success. They stand a good chance of not even making the playoffs. Factor in also things like the NBA lottery which can make or break a club to. Then teams will gamble on high risk, high reward players. And a number of top players, even top 50 all time, didn't even win a championship. You get a series of bad breaks, you don't win. It happens. Also, Michael Jordan as a baseball player also didn't work out. Anyone think Michael Jordan as a baseball player didn't work out because he didn't try hard enough, or wasn't motivated enough?











