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damefan on 24 March 2011
Darth Tigris said:
trasharmdsister12 said:
Dr.Grass said:

I'm more of a PS3 fan (as some of the Xbox guys here will tell), so I'm just calling it as I see it. The point of the statement is to concede to the few Xbox guys on here (who often get attacked and massacred) that imo Forza has outdone GT.

"Please expand on what Forza has actually done better to beat GT5?"

Why don't you just do some searching for yourself.There are many who are advocating this opinion, and more importantly, Forza3 took a fraction of the time to dev that GT5 took, and Forza4 is coming out. I don't really see how its so hard to accept that in some respects GT5 has been usurped as the king.

I agree that Forza 3 is the better racing sim experience but I feel GT5 is the better driving sim experience. The key words beingracing and driving. GT5 drives more realistically and you have to be more focused on the control of your own individual car. Forza 3 provides a good amount of driving simulation but includes a more realistic and dynamic racing experience and race dynamic IMO. Both games are profound in what they accomplish but have their priorities in slightly different orders but they're both at the top of their respective focuses.

That's been my take on these two games having spent a decent amount of time with each one. The competition between them is great for us gamers as they'll drive (no pun intended) each other to push the envelope in as many ways as possible.

I still don't understand the whole "better driving experience" thing.  Both are RACING games where the entire gameplay is centered around RACING.  Driving is what pizza delivery guys and Grand Theft Auto players do.

It's something that has become a bit of cliche on the internet, but it still makes no sense to me at all whatsoever ...

Agreed, I will add though I have a suggestion for GT6 if they really want to make it the ultimate sim.

When you are testing for your licenses on the game your character should have to go to the BMV and stand in line for an hour.



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ssj12 on 24 March 2011
Darth Tigris said:
ssj12 said:
Dr.Grass said:

I have to admit that Forza has stolen the racing sim crown from GT5 this gen.

10x better graphics are obviously not possible, but I think the talented guys at Turn10 might surprise us with Forza4.


Well considering GT is driving sim, not a racing sim. So I guess no one has to give a damn about this as nothing was stolen since GT never had that crown.

Current console "racing sims" would probably be... F1? Nascar? Forza. There isn't many is there.

See my previous post above, please.

the entire point of GT is to recreate the driving experience of vehicles. Racing is not the point. You drive while racing, yes. But instead of focusing in the racing, the vehicles are the main focus, hence why GT5 has so many cars. Polyphony would rather you buy the expensive Ferrari and run around various practive tracks figuring out how it handles and make you feel like your driving it than racing around the track hitting and bumping every other car like an idiot.



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SvennoJ on 24 March 2011

The only thing I want is 1080p or at least 1280x1080. The extra vertical lines really make a difference for racing games especially if you use in car view.

How is the forza 3 online community? I skipped 3 after my bad experience with forza 2. I was late to get into the online and by then every race had people ruining it for everyone else. You can tune your car for cornering all you want but to no use when there are people pushing you of the road in the corner or using the pit maneuver on you on the straights. (I'm glad gt5 car collisions are unrealistic enough that the pit maneuver doesn't work) Damage did not help one bit, the victim is usually way worse of. Not to mention every other race had an idiot racing in the opposite direction.

If Forza 4 online is good and pgr5 is announced I'll get gold again. (don't care about shooters online)



pslee on 25 March 2011

comparing gt to forza is like comparing halo to killzone. 



AussieGecko on 25 March 2011
richardhutnik said:
AussieGecko said:

oh please god open world, i loved that in midnight club and underground 2... I NEEDS IT AGAIN!!!

EDIT: maybe its not just the TopGear US that is included in this but probably meant to be more patriotical perhaps but TopGear UK will still have a showing perhaps.... 

Forza 4 with an open world to drive around in?  STOP THE MADNESS!  I was trying to get myself content with Forza 3, and GT5.


can you imagine that though, with the supposed graphics, the game would need an install for the open world bit most likely but it would be freaking sick.... getting excited for this possible feature :D



 

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AussieGecko on 25 March 2011
ethomaz said:
FattyDingDong said:

gt5 is the best selling racing game of this gen. i dont think forza 3 or 4 will outsell it

Like Killzone will never outsell Halo... that's the weight of a brand.


and both brands deservedly though, there are brands that dont deserve it *cough* call of duty *cough* BUT thats not the point....



 

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Darth Tigris on 26 March 2011
ssj12 said:
Darth Tigris said:
ssj12 said:
Dr.Grass said:

I have to admit that Forza has stolen the racing sim crown from GT5 this gen.

10x better graphics are obviously not possible, but I think the talented guys at Turn10 might surprise us with Forza4.


Well considering GT is driving sim, not a racing sim. So I guess no one has to give a damn about this as nothing was stolen since GT never had that crown.

Current console "racing sims" would probably be... F1? Nascar? Forza. There isn't many is there.

See my previous post above, please.

the entire point of GT is to recreate the driving experience of vehicles. Racing is not the point. You drive while racing, yes. But instead of focusing in the racing, the vehicles are the main focus, hence why GT5 has so many cars. Polyphony would rather you buy the expensive Ferrari and run around various practive tracks figuring out how it handles and make you feel like your driving it than racing around the track hitting and bumping every other car like an idiot.

You imply that is something that Turn 10 did not include in Forza when in fact they did.  There is nothing that you mentioned that any that have given Forza an honest chance have not done.  In fact, this is something that is present in all true racing sims, including the PC.

So, again, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case for what makes GT such a 'superior driving simulation'  other than personal opinion.



Chibi.V.29 on 26 March 2011

10 times better graphics...O.o That would look better than real life >_> or atleast as much like real life anything can on a screen :P



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richardhutnik on 26 March 2011
slowmo said:

Can we get a ruling now that anyone comparing Forza to GT in future threads will get banned, I'm sick to death of the same old childish bitching.

Can the ban be extended to the use of Metacritic to score points to?



slowmo on 26 March 2011
richardhutnik said:
slowmo said:

Can we get a ruling now that anyone comparing Forza to GT in future threads will get banned, I'm sick to death of the same old childish bitching.

Can the ban be extended to the use of Metacritic to score points to?


Absolutely :)