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LordTheNightKnight on 11 March 2011
Gamerace said:

I agree gamers put too much empathize on review scores but that's totally the gaming publics fault. 

It's no different than movie reviews.   If people paid the same kind of adherence to movie reviewers as they do game reviewers then all Academy Award Nominees would be 100M movies and Transformers 2 and such would be megabombs.   But we don't pay movie reviewers that respect, because we know critically acclaimed movies, while good are somewhat boring (with some exceptions) and summer blockbusters while trash are fun to watch (usually)!

More casual gamers don't have this problem.  They look at Amazon reviews or word-of-mouth or just buy their favorite franchises.  It's not an issue.  

So why are we making it one?

How does the point in the third paragraph make this not an issue? I'm obviously not refering to those who buy games outside of metacritic scores, but to those who bash those people for doing that.

And movies still have jerks that act like there is something wrong with you if you watch films like those Bay directs.



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Gamerace on 11 March 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
Gamerace said:

I agree gamers put too much empathize on review scores but that's totally the gaming publics fault. 

It's no different than movie reviews.   If people paid the same kind of adherence to movie reviewers as they do game reviewers then all Academy Award Nominees would be 100M movies and Transformers 2 and such would be megabombs.   But we don't pay movie reviewers that respect, because we know critically acclaimed movies, while good are somewhat boring (with some exceptions) and summer blockbusters while trash are fun to watch (usually)!

More casual gamers don't have this problem.  They look at Amazon reviews or word-of-mouth or just buy their favorite franchises.  It's not an issue.  

So why are we making it one?

How does the point in the third paragraph make this not an issue? I'm obviously not refering to those who buy games outside of metacritic scores, but to those who bash those people for doing that.

And movies still have jerks that act like there is something wrong with you if you watch films like those Bay directs.

Sorry, maybe I'm slow, but I don't get it.   It's a gaming forum.  It's full of gaming enthusiasts.  Enthusiasts of anything will always be 'snobs'.    It's like going onto a movie forum and complaining people there sneer at Transformers. 



 

LordTheNightKnight on 11 March 2011
Gamerace said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Gamerace said:

I agree gamers put too much empathize on review scores but that's totally the gaming publics fault. 

It's no different than movie reviews.   If people paid the same kind of adherence to movie reviewers as they do game reviewers then all Academy Award Nominees would be 100M movies and Transformers 2 and such would be megabombs.   But we don't pay movie reviewers that respect, because we know critically acclaimed movies, while good are somewhat boring (with some exceptions) and summer blockbusters while trash are fun to watch (usually)!

More casual gamers don't have this problem.  They look at Amazon reviews or word-of-mouth or just buy their favorite franchises.  It's not an issue.  

So why are we making it one?

How does the point in the third paragraph make this not an issue? I'm obviously not refering to those who buy games outside of metacritic scores, but to those who bash those people for doing that.

And movies still have jerks that act like there is something wrong with you if you watch films like those Bay directs.

Sorry, maybe I'm slow, but I don't get it.   It's a gaming forum.  It's full of gaming enthusiasts.  Enthusiasts of anything will always be 'snobs'.    It's like going onto a movie forum and complaining people there sneer at Transformers. 


No, they will not always be snobs, especially when you get a site even half as popular as this one. And even if they are there doesn't mean we shouldn't call on them for that.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Gamerace on 11 March 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
Gamerace said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Gamerace said:

I agree gamers put too much empathize on review scores but that's totally the gaming publics fault. 

It's no different than movie reviews.   If people paid the same kind of adherence to movie reviewers as they do game reviewers then all Academy Award Nominees would be 100M movies and Transformers 2 and such would be megabombs.   But we don't pay movie reviewers that respect, because we know critically acclaimed movies, while good are somewhat boring (with some exceptions) and summer blockbusters while trash are fun to watch (usually)!

More casual gamers don't have this problem.  They look at Amazon reviews or word-of-mouth or just buy their favorite franchises.  It's not an issue.  

So why are we making it one?

How does the point in the third paragraph make this not an issue? I'm obviously not refering to those who buy games outside of metacritic scores, but to those who bash those people for doing that.

And movies still have jerks that act like there is something wrong with you if you watch films like those Bay directs.

Sorry, maybe I'm slow, but I don't get it.   It's a gaming forum.  It's full of gaming enthusiasts.  Enthusiasts of anything will always be 'snobs'.    It's like going onto a movie forum and complaining people there sneer at Transformers. 


No, they will not always be snobs, especially when you get a site even half as popular as this one. And even if they are there doesn't mean we shouldn't call on them for that.

It true they won't all be snobs.   You always have the people with the broader vision but then enthusiast sites always attract those with a very narrow definition of what's 'good'.   Those that adore the 'art' of the media (or whatever) and adhore the commercially successful.   Or alternatively, the equivilant to the Trekkies, Star Wars fans, Potter fans, Twilight Fans, etc.

I think those people get called on being 'snobs/elitists/fanboys' on this site all the time.   But heck, I think everyone on here is a 'fanboy' so some degree.    

Yes it's a shame some think they are too good to enjoy a game that scored in the 60's/70's or 80's.   But you'll always have those purists and you're guaranteed to find them on a site like this.   So either call them on their lack of vision, ignore them or just don't go where you'll bound to find them.



 

LordTheNightKnight on 11 March 2011
Gamerace said:
LordTheNightKnight said:


No, they will not always be snobs, especially when you get a site even half as popular as this one. And even if they are there doesn't mean we shouldn't call on them for that.

It true they won't all be snobs.   You always have the people with the broader vision but then enthusiast sites always attract those with a very narrow definition of what's 'good'.   Those that adore the 'art' of the media (or whatever) and adhore the commercially successful.   Or alternatively, the equivilant to the Trekkies, Star Wars fans, Potter fans, Twilight Fans, etc.

I think those people get called on being 'snobs/elitists/fanboys' on this site all the time.   But heck, I think everyone on here is a 'fanboy' so some degree.    

Yes it's a shame some think they are too good to enjoy a game that scored in the 60's/70's or 80's.   But you'll always have those purists and you're guaranteed to find them on a site like this.   So either call them on their lack of vision, ignore them or just don't go where you'll bound to find them.


That's part of what I made this thread for.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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zgamer5 on 11 March 2011

time to spam the ign forums!!!



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LordTheNightKnight on 11 March 2011
zgamer5 said:

time to spam the ign forums!!!


No, this isn't meant for trolling, especially since that is what the other side often does.

But anyone who's established there is free to make a thread for this group over there.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

oniyide on 11 March 2011

@lordtheknight  i hear, i def. agree on the Amazon.com part. They are the ONLY user reviews that i take seriously, not just games, music, movies, all of it. There the only site that does not seem to be overrun by fanboys



adriane23 on 12 March 2011
zgamer5 said:

time to spam the ign forums!!!


We'd just be spamming spam.....



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Calmador on 12 March 2011

The Calmanator reporting for duty :3



All gaming systems, consoles/PC, have thier perks... why fight over preferences? I like Coke and you like Pepsi, that's it, let's not fight over which toy we like best cause that's what they are. Is someone's preference in a toy important or is the relationship between you and your neighbor more important? Answer is obvious, but THE most important thing is your relationship with God almighty. God Bless you in Jesus's name.

I can communicate without talking... I can send a loved one money without actually sending money... and I can commit theft without the product disappearing, the point of theft is the point of theft not one of it's possible symptoms which is the product dissappearing. The thief wants to gain something without paying for it, that's the point of theft, the thief doesn't have to care or anybody else has to care if the product dissappears. The product dissappearing is just a possible symptom of theft. Gifts are sacrfices, in order to give a gift, it has to be a genuine sacrfice/gift, meaning a copy of the game isn't still in your PC. Piracy is theft and/or being a culprit of theft.