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fps_d0minat0r on 10 February 2011
Acevil said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

so the judge is protecting hackers and in effect stopping sony from annoying them in their work.

lets say this was to do with drugs, would the judge stop the police from searching for them? NO, so why when it comes to cyber criminals they are given a wall of protection?

the judge should be sued.....if you can do that?


Two problems with your statement. 1. You are comparing people who were commenting in a videos to drug DEALERS not drug users. 

2. Judges do stop police from searching individuals, if the judge finds the claim to have no reasonable ground, and JUDGE WOULD NEVER SIGN OFF ON DRUG USERS (On that basis alone).


2 problems with your reply

1) your assuming sony will ban everyone whos details they obtain

2) it was just an example of another crime situation, when police look for drug dealers they come across innocent people too, they dont lock them up do they?

funny how everyone thinks sony will gather 'personal' data and name and shame them on playstation blog or sell it to 3rd party companies. they should have done it undercover like google, screwed up the hackers and then someone would have found out 3 years later when the ps3 would be safe from harm and no-one would be complaining.



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cmeese47 on 10 February 2011

I want to see them catch people I really do because I would love to see these hackers get busted with illegal software movies and music, which they no doubt possess and see them given proper fines which is around 10k for each illegal item. I would love to see GEOHOT try to pay a 10 million dollar fine.



dsister on 10 February 2011
Nanaki said:

 

You are wrong here. If you are banned for piracy, your console cannot go to Live. But your GT is OK, if you use different machine, you can use same GT as normal. HDD is not blocked, you just cannot transfer GT and saves to another console. In 8955, banned consoles cannot use "install" function, but apart of this, HDD was normal. So you must play from disc in that time. But in 9199 (spring update), install function was back even for banned consoles.


I never said your gamertag was banned when you pirated. I thought you were just locked out of your hard drive.



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Dasau on 10 February 2011
Americant_heroxbox said:
Dasau said:
dsister said:
 


They banned people's gamertags from xbl. And then they locked them out of their hard drives when they were caught pirating.

Banning a PSN ID is kind of useless and a hard drive is easy enough to replace on the PS3...


Wrong.  Banned people gamertags still allow them to play offline on their harddrive.

 

Even though Sony did a bad job against hacker,  they still doing something instead of Microsoft letting it loose.

 

Marvel vs Capcom 3 didn't come out yet, and GUESS what ( 360 have it 1 week ahead).  Million of copy had pirated already, and what can Microsoft do about it? Nothing.

LINK????????

Link to the game, or to prove you can play offline?  Well google it.



NotStan on 10 February 2011
dsister said:
Nanaki said:

 

You are wrong here. If you are banned for piracy, your console cannot go to Live. But your GT is OK, if you use different machine, you can use same GT as normal. HDD is not blocked, you just cannot transfer GT and saves to another console. In 8955, banned consoles cannot use "install" function, but apart of this, HDD was normal. So you must play from disc in that time. But in 9199 (spring update), install function was back even for banned consoles.


I never said your gamertag was banned when you pirated. I thought you were just locked out of your hard drive.

I think it disables the console's ability to go online, thus if you get hit with the banhammer your console is bricked and will never be able to go online. So it's pretty much a mine for an unsuspecting consumer that might purchase it without knowing that online is permanently disabled on the console. I think people are able to play the games offline and pirated ones in particular, it's just live that's disabled.



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9Chiba on 10 February 2011
fps_d0minat0r said:


2 problems with your reply

1) your assuming sony will ban everyone whos details they obtain

2) it was just an example of another crime situation, when police look for drug dealers they come across innocent people too, they dont lock them up do they?

funny how everyone thinks sony will gather 'personal' data and name and shame them on playstation blog or sell it to 3rd party companies. they should have done it undercover like google, screwed up the hackers and then someone would have found out 3 years later when the ps3 would be safe from harm and no-one would be complaining.

regardless of whether or not sony bans people, it is not legal to collect this kind of information without a warrant/subpoena from a judge (which sony failed to get).

also, google is irrelevant to this case, since it is perfectly legal to hack a ps3, if you paid for it. it is not legal to hack a google if you did not pay for it. this makes it a lot easier for google to discern guilty from innocent.



Dasau on 10 February 2011

It might seem legal to hack your own system, but what the point of doing it? Just to play pirates games.  If we ain't doing anything wrong, then why do we afraid of Sony collecting our data.  I don't see any other reason that people want to hack their system.  Please don't tell me it for LINUX! Please go play on your computer instead. 

Anyway, if we keep complain and stuff these company can't afford to make more system for us in the future.  So we need to support them.



qmoney88 on 10 February 2011

How difficult is it to block IP adresses?  Seems to me to be a simple solution, simply dont allow that ip address to connect to the psn.  While sony's methods seem a bit off, I would be trying to do everything I could to stop everyone who is hacking their ps3's thus allowing them to utilize pirated software.  I know for a fact that if any of you were directly affected by this financially such as being the owner of a particular popular franchise or the hardware itself that you would do everything you could to ensure that profits remain as high as possible, piracy definitely undermines this motive.



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Baalzamon on 10 February 2011

I think Sony just wants information that they will then be able to sell to companies to make up for PS3 losses.



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Hephaestos on 10 February 2011

Funny! I don't have a PS3, so can I sue sony for invasion of my privacy on the false ground that I supposetely agreed to the PS3 terms and condition?



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