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Speaking to Eurogamer following the unveiling, vice president of Epic Games Mark Rein emphasised the NGP's graphical power.

"This is the kind of machine that a Gears of War-style experience would be appropriate on because it has the control layout that games like that are designed for and can produce some pretty compelling visuals," he said.

"Activision announced Call of Duty for the device so of course a Gears-style game would also be appropriate."

Much has been made of the NGP's graphical horsepower, with some insisting it is capable of producing PlayStation 3 quality visuals.

When asked for his honest assessment of this claim, Rein replied: "This device is certainly in the same class as PlayStation 3. With Unreal Engine 3, we're able to produce some pretty spectacular visuals on this device already, and we're just getting started."

During Sony's press conference Epic founder Tim Sweeney took to the stage to confirm Unreal Engine 3 support for NGP and showed the Epic Citadel iOS tech demo running on the new handheld.

"This is made possible by Sony's multi-core GPU, which is roughly 4x as powerful as any portable we've previously seen," he said.

Sweeney went on to introduce a demo of Trendy Entertainment's UE3-powered Dungeon Defenders, a PC, PSN and XBLA game. Converting from PS3 took a week, apparently.

Rein went into more detail on the game, and confirmed that PS3/NGP cross-platform play is possible.

"Dungeon Defenders is essentially a PS3 game brought to NGP," he said. "At CES this year, Trendy showed Dungeon Defenders on a Tegra 2 mobile device playing multiplayer against a PlayStation 3. Trendy told me they're planning to have NGP players playing against PS3 players. So this part is already a reality.

"All they need to add is the ability to save your status in the cloud so you can pick up and play on another device and they're done. That's not a hard problem to solve and I suspect Sony will offer a good solution for that via PSN at some point."

And that last feature is apparently coming in the next firmware update.  Could we possibly see the same game fully compatible with both NGP and PS3 in the future like Steam games on PC/MAC?  Kojima expressed that he'd like for this to happen at Sony's press conference the other day.



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There's no way in hell Gears of War comes to NGP. MS probably owns part of the IP trademark. I repeat, you'll never see a Gears of War game on NGP. You can quote me on that. The best you can hope for is a new IP/Bulletstorm/UT because I think MS probably owns part of Shadow Complex as well.  



ElGranCabeza said:

There's no way in hell Gears of War comes to NGP. MS probably owns part of the IP trademark. I repeat, you'll never see a Gears of War game on NGP. You can quote me on that. The best you can hope for is a new IP/Bulletstorm/UT because I think MS probably owns part of Shadow Complex as well.  


They didn't say Gears of War would be on NGP, but rather that a Gears of War-style game would work well on the system.  Basically, NGP can handle third person shooters.

And Gears of War is wholly owned by Epic Games.



Gears Of War on NGP & PS3 

WOW 

that means that all Xbox would really have is Halo 



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makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:

There's no way in hell Gears of War comes to NGP. MS probably owns part of the IP trademark. I repeat, you'll never see a Gears of War game on NGP. You can quote me on that. The best you can hope for is a new IP/Bulletstorm/UT because I think MS probably owns part of Shadow Complex as well.  


They didn't say Gears of War would be on NGP, but rather that a Gears of War-style game would work well on the system.  Basically, NGP can handle third person shooters.

And Gears of War is wholly owned by Epic Games.

Gears style game? Sure, that's why I said new IP.

Type www.gearsofwar.com in your browser and tell me where that redirects you to.

I'll save you the trouble so that you don't have to click on copyrights/trademarks:

Copyright

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

 

Trademarks

 

Gears of War, Gears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.

 

Microsoft, the Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox LIVE, Windows, DirectX, and the Xbox logos are either registered trademarks or trademarks of the Microsoft group of companies.

 

The ESRB rating icons are registered trademarks of the Entertainment Software Association.



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ElGranCabeza said:
makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:

There's no way in hell Gears of War comes to NGP. MS probably owns part of the IP trademark. I repeat, you'll never see a Gears of War game on NGP. You can quote me on that. The best you can hope for is a new IP/Bulletstorm/UT because I think MS probably owns part of Shadow Complex as well.  


They didn't say Gears of War would be on NGP, but rather that a Gears of War-style game would work well on the system.  Basically, NGP can handle third person shooters.

And Gears of War is wholly owned by Epic Games.

Gears style game? Sure, that's why I said new IP.

Type www.gearsofwar.com in your browser and tell me where that redirects you to.

I'll save you the trouble so that you don't have to click on copyrights/trademarks:

Copyrights

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Trademarks

Gears of WarGears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.

Microsoft, the Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox LIVE, Windows, DirectX, and the Xbox logos are either registered trademarks or trademarks of the Microsoft group of companies.

The ESRB rating icons are registered trademarks of the Entertainment Software Association.

Did you even read what you quoted?

Gears of War, Gears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.




tendoronie67 said:

Gears Of War on NGP & PS3 

WOW 

that means that all Xbox would really have is Halo 

Read my post above.



makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:
makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:

There's no way in hell Gears of War comes to NGP. MS probably owns part of the IP trademark. I repeat, you'll never see a Gears of War game on NGP. You can quote me on that. The best you can hope for is a new IP/Bulletstorm/UT because I think MS probably owns part of Shadow Complex as well.  


They didn't say Gears of War would be on NGP, but rather that a Gears of War-style game would work well on the system.  Basically, NGP can handle third person shooters.

And Gears of War is wholly owned by Epic Games.

Gears style game? Sure, that's why I said new IP.

Type www.gearsofwar.com in your browser and tell me where that redirects you to.

I'll save you the trouble so that you don't have to click on copyrights/trademarks:

Copyrights

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Trademarks

Gears of WarGears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.

Microsoft, the Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox LIVE, Windows, DirectX, and the Xbox logos are either registered trademarks or trademarks of the Microsoft group of companies.

The ESRB rating icons are registered trademarks of the Entertainment Software Association.

 

Did you even read what you quoted?

Gears of War, Gears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.


Copyright

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved

You probably missed this. And answer, where does www.gearsofwar.com takes you to?

ElGranCabeza said:
makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:
makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:

There's no way in hell Gears of War comes to NGP. MS probably owns part of the IP trademark. I repeat, you'll never see a Gears of War game on NGP. You can quote me on that. The best you can hope for is a new IP/Bulletstorm/UT because I think MS probably owns part of Shadow Complex as well.  


They didn't say Gears of War would be on NGP, but rather that a Gears of War-style game would work well on the system.  Basically, NGP can handle third person shooters.

And Gears of War is wholly owned by Epic Games.

Gears style game? Sure, that's why I said new IP.

Type www.gearsofwar.com in your browser and tell me where that redirects you to.

I'll save you the trouble so that you don't have to click on copyrights/trademarks:

Copyrights

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Trademarks

Gears of WarGears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.

Microsoft, the Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox LIVE, Windows, DirectX, and the Xbox logos are either registered trademarks or trademarks of the Microsoft group of companies.

The ESRB rating icons are registered trademarks of the Entertainment Software Association.

 

Did you even read what you quoted?

Gears of War, Gears of War 2, the Crimson Omen logo, Marcus Fenix, Unreal, Epic Games and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or elsewhere.


 

Copyright

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved You probably missed this. And answer, where does www.gearsofwar.com takes you to?


this isn't even a question anymore, Mark came out and directly answered this question -- MS doesn't have any right to gears of war.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/03/15/gears-of-war-microsoft-does-not-own-us-epic-games/

Some interesting news to bring you involving the future of the Gears of War franchise now, as Epic’s Mark Rein has stated that they, not Microsoft, own the rights to the GoW IP – adding that they are free to ‘do what they want with it’



ElGranCabeza said:

Copyright

©2009 Epic Games, Inc., except underlying technology ©2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved You probably missed this. And answer, where does www.gearsofwar.com takes you to?

The official website as hosted by the publisher?  Or did you expect the official page for a game published by Microsoft to go somewhere else?

And do you not know the difference between a copyright and a trademark?  Referring to Wikipedia, as they can summarize this far more succinctly than I can, a copyright is "a set of exclusive rights granted by the law of a jurisdiction to the author or creator of an original work, including the right to copy, distribute and adapt the work." 

This refers specifically to who has the right to distribute the first Gears of War as it exists on 360.  And if you notice, Microsoft only holds this right for the game's underlying technology, while Epic owns the rights to everything else.  Microsoft's copyright has no bearing on sequels or spin-offs or anything other than the underlying technology of the game as it exists on 360 and PC.

A trademark, on the other hand, is "a distinctive sign or indicator used by an individual, business organization, or other legal entity to identify that the products or services to consumers with which the trademark appears originate from a unique source, and to distinguish its products or services from those of other entities."

In other words, Epic owns the Gears of War IP, and as such they can do whatever they want with it.