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Does environmental impact affect your buying decisions?

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It's impossible to have "zero impact" because resources will always be required - even if we recycle everything, there will always be demand for more land, etc - which is obviously bad for the environment. Also, a lot of companies ignore water consumption in their "green efforts".



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Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food. 



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Armads said:

Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food. 

Nice troll.



Chrizum said:
Armads said:

Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food. 

Nice troll.


Ya... its people like him who have no clue the benefits of such foods.



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ssj12 said:
Chrizum said:
Armads said:

Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food.

Nice troll.


Ya... its people like him who have no clue the benefits of such foods.


They may be better for human consumption, but the environmental impact of organic fruits and vegetables are often misrepresented, as well as buying local foods.



SamuelRSmith said:
ssj12 said:
Chrizum said:
Armads said:

Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food.

Nice troll.


Ya... its people like him who have no clue the benefits of such foods.


They may be better for human consumption, but the environmental impact of organic fruits and vegetables are often misrepresented, as well as buying local foods.

This post is completely useless without any arguments to back it up. Your post is essentially the same as Armad's troll post, although you probably don't mean to troll.



SamuelRSmith said:
ssj12 said:
Chrizum said:
Armads said:

Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food.

Nice troll.


Ya... its people like him who have no clue the benefits of such foods.


They may be better for human consumption, but the environmental impact of organic fruits and vegetables are often misrepresented, as well as buying local foods.

Just to demonstrate your point:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1543224/Organic-food-that-is-not-as-green-as-we-think.html

Organic food that is not as green as we think

Organic and locally-grown food may be no better for the environment than conventional produce, according to a Government-funded report.

 

Milk, tomatoes and chicken produced to organic standards can be more polluting than their intensively-farmed equivalents, said researchers from the Manchester Business School in a study for the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.

The energy needed to grow organic tomatoes is 1.9 times that of conventional methods, the study found. Organic milk requires 80 per cent more land to produce than conventional milk and creates 20 per cent more carbon dioxide, it says. The use of manure to fertilise land can lead to acidification of soil and the pollution of water courses.

Organic chickens require 25 per cent more energy to rear and produce more carbon dioxide than conventional battery or barn hens, according to the report.

However, the study points out that there are many organic foods with lower ecological impacts than conventional produce. It suggests there is no clear-cut answer as to whether an organic or a conventional trolley of goods has more or less impact.

The report adds: "Organic agriculture poses its own environmental problems in the production of some foods, either in terms of nutrient release to water or in terms of climate change burdens.

"Similarly there is little evidence that the consumption of locally sourced food products generally has a lower environmental impact than those from further afield."

It points out, for example, that organic tomatoes grown in heated greenhouses in Britain generate 100 times more carbon dioxide per kilogram than tomatoes from unheated greenhouses in Spain.

The Soil Association said the report was "not a comprehensive analysis" and did not cover biological diversity. For example, organic farms have been shown to be better for declining farmland birds such as skylarks and partridges.

A spokesman said it recognised that in some areas, such as poultry and growing vegetables out of season, organic was less energy efficient. But that was outweighed by other factors the Defra study had not considered such as animal welfare, soil condition and water usage.

The association is unhappy with the model used for the study which, it says, amplified the amount of nitrous oxide emissions – a greenhouse gas – and increased the land area used by half.

• Illegal genetically-modified rice may still be on sale months after the Food Standards Agency said it had been withdrawn, Friends of the Earth will tell the High Court today.

A judicial review of whether the agency took adequate steps to protect consumers will hear that a strain of GM rice contaminated supplies last year.

Clare Oxborrow, of Friends of the Earth, claimed: "Instead of acting to make sure the public were not exposed to illegal GM rice, the agency sat back and waited for contaminated products to be sold and eaten."

 

This isn't to say that organic (or locally grown) food is bad, but it will have different levels of effectiveness depending on a lot of factors including the climate of the region you're talking about and the crop people are growing.

 

 


 



Chrizum said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ssj12 said:
Chrizum said:
Armads said:

Yes it does, that's why I avoid organic food.

Nice troll.


Ya... its people like him who have no clue the benefits of such foods.


They may be better for human consumption, but the environmental impact of organic fruits and vegetables are often misrepresented, as well as buying local foods.

This post is completely useless without any arguments to back it up. Your post is essentially the same as Armad's troll post, although you probably don't mean to troll.

Haha, this is just the way I post, make a general sweeping statement, wait for someone to make a couple of counter-points, and then go in guns-blazing.

Generally, though, organic food requires more land, water, and energy per crop than the normal mass-produced shit. It's just economies of scale all over again. Organic farms, on the whole, also produce less crops which means that a far greater number of organic farms are required to meet supply requirements - adding to transportation needs, etc.