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Joelcool7 said:

I was suprised that the film company had the balls to picture Zuckerberg as bad as they did. Even though it was factual and Zuckerberg did many very mean actions I still didn't think anyone would have the balls to make him out that bad. Infact I thought it was a very educational movie I didn't know about half the stuff until I saw the movie.

Now Zuckerberg himself said the movie was completely fictional. so how much of it is fact and how much is Hollywood I'm not entirely sure. I'm sure that some parts were exagerated (Like Zuckerberg setting the guy up with the chicken so that Greenpeace or who ever would get upset giving him an excuse to distance him from the company) I doubt it happened like that, thats just to deviant and diabolical. But the part about the Twins ideas being stolen and savatogued thats probubly been downplayed.

In the end its hollywood , its entertaining and educational. Whether its 100% factual is the only thing I found wrong with it. Then again Zuckerberg rented a theater out so he and his staff could watch it, So you never know.

They had only one ball, honestly. He wasn't portrayed as bad as he really was, and they actually made it out at the end to seem as if he actually (possibly) didn't do those diabolical things. Not gutsy enough.



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Kasz216 said:

Me, I thought True Grit was better.

This movie while really good, lacked direction and a coherent point.  Even documentries tend to have a point.

I mean, they played the twins as the villians... when he really did steal their idea and stall them to get a headstart.

As for Severin... he lives in like the Singapore.  He didn't actually settle like the movie said.  He ended up winning in court.  Owns like 7% of Facebook.


Given the recent Goldman Sachs investment, that gives him a rough valuation of around $3.5bn. I wouldn't complain.



sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

Me, I thought True Grit was better.

This movie while really good, lacked direction and a coherent point.  Even documentries tend to have a point.

I mean, they played the twins as the villians... when he really did steal their idea and stall them to get a headstart.

As for Severin... he lives in like the Singapore.  He didn't actually settle like the movie said.  He ended up winning in court.  Owns like 7% of Facebook.

I agree with this. I've read reviews where the movie was compared to a Shakespearian tragedy, but the ending was very unsatisfying IMO. All of the characters had a relatively happy ending, and the movie did a poor job of showing the negative consiquences of Zuckeberg's despicable actions. You're right that there seemed to be no point to the movie. It also seemed like they were too afrain to paint Zuckerberg as the villain he was.

I also hated the dialogue. Aaron Sorkin is the main reason I could never watch The West Wing. He tries so hard to be smart and witty, that he creates artificial dialogue, that's so unbelievable. It's as if all the characters have the same voice. The movie Juno was harshly criticised for this, but no one seems to criticise The Social Network for it. It would be OK if just one of the characters spoke that way, but the fact that all charatcers speak like that is a huge flaw IMHO.

The movie was also too long (lenght is appropriate for some movies, but it seemed pointless in this case).

Personally I thought Black Swan was much better. More original, better acting, awsome use of special effects (no simple eye candy like Transformers), and a surpsrisingly appropriate length.

What's True Grit like? Haven't seen it yet. Heard it's similar to Unforgiven, but more kid friendly.

Aaron Sorkin was REALLY good on Sports Night which is my favorite show.   Same talking, but it fit best there.

Everything else... not so good.  Going in I didn't know Sorkin wrote it, but I did know as soon as I heard them talking in the first scene. 

Honestly it's also why the rich jocks were probably portrayed as evil jerks even though they were the ones wrong.  Sorkin REALLY hates rich people and in general all things right wing.  It's really noticeable in the West Wing... where after Sorkin had left the presidential debate actually plays out like a "Gee both these guys have good points" event rather then one group being right and the other sporting  cape and fake moustache.

Really, I wish real campaigns were like that West Wing Campaign.

I imagine the dialogue doesn't get critisized because they're "eccentric computer programmers" and the only people who know the dialogue is off are people who aren't the people talking about it.

 

As for True Grit.  It's a Western that everybody I know liked, even people who steadfastly hate westerns.  It's basically about a young girl who hires a sheriff to capture the man who killed her father and then just the whole adventure of it.  Hard to explain really since while the plot is basic, all the joy generally comes from the great characterizations and some of the action.



SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:

Me, I thought True Grit was better.

This movie while really good, lacked direction and a coherent point.  Even documentries tend to have a point.

I mean, they played the twins as the villians... when he really did steal their idea and stall them to get a headstart.

As for Severin... he lives in like the Singapore.  He didn't actually settle like the movie said.  He ended up winning in court.  Owns like 7% of Facebook.


Given the recent Goldman Sachs investment, that gives him a rough valuation of around $3.5bn. I wouldn't complain.


Nah, well worth the 10K or so he spent.  Annoying to have to go through a lawyer to get it though.  Also probably annoying to be betrayed by your friend.



Kasz216 said:

Aaron Sorkin was REALLY good on Sports Night which is my favorite show.   Same talking, but it fit best there.

Everything else... not so good.  Going in I didn't know Sorkin wrote it, but I did know as soon as I heard them talking in the first scene. 

Honestly it's also why the rich jocks were probably portrayed as evil jerks even though they were the ones wrong.  Sorkin REALLY hates rich people and in general all things right wing.  It's really noticeable in the West Wing... where after Sorkin had left the presidential debate actually plays out like a "Gee both these guys have good points" event rather then one group being right and the other sporting  cape and fake moustache.

Really, I wish real campaigns were like that West Wing Campaign.

I imagine the dialogue doesn't get critisized because they're "eccentric computer programmers" and the only people who know the dialogue is off are people who aren't the people talking about it.

 

As for True Grit.  It's a Western that everybody I know liked, even people who steadfastly hate westerns.  It's basically about a young girl who hires a sheriff to capture the man who killed her father and then just the whole adventure of it.  Hard to explain really since while the plot is basic, all the joy generally comes from the great characterizations and some of the action.

You mean the one where the right wing guy's wearing a cape and has a fake moustache (BTW, I hope you weren't saying that that literally happened, which would be very ironic, as such portrayals are right wing stereotypes of villains) or the boring one that actually makes sense?

I never saw much of The West Wing (tried seeing the pilot, but was very turned off by the dialogue). I don't think the politics would've upset me (unless it all got too over-the-top, and from what you describe I suppose the term "liberal wet dream" would be appropriate).

I'll check out True Grit when it comes out over here. It's theme kinda reminds me of Unforgiven (which I really liked), though I heard that this is the most "kid friendly" movie of the Coen's.



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"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

I thought the movie was pretty nice, if a bit boring at times, I hated the douchebag twins, and they got what was coming in the end lol. Yeah I felt sorry for the guy, he pretty much got assspanked out of the company even though he was the first investor, I'd pretty disappointed in my friend and upset too.. But LOL

*SPOILER*

 

Newspaper article about animal cruelty, when he fed the Chicken a chicken burger x)))



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NotStan said:

I thought the movie was pretty nice, if a bit boring at times, I hated the douchebag twins, and they got what was coming in the end lol. Yeah I felt sorry for the guy, he pretty much got assspanked out of the company even though he was the first investor, I'd pretty disappointed in my friend and upset too.. But LOL

*SPOILER*

 

Newspaper article about animal cruelty, when he fed the Chicken a chicken burger x)))

They were actually victims. The only douchebag in the story was Zuckeberg. And all the characters ended up filthy rich in the end.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
NotStan said:

I thought the movie was pretty nice, if a bit boring at times, I hated the douchebag twins, and they got what was coming in the end lol. Yeah I felt sorry for the guy, he pretty much got assspanked out of the company even though he was the first investor, I'd pretty disappointed in my friend and upset too.. But LOL

*SPOILER*

 

Newspaper article about animal cruelty, when he fed the Chicken a chicken burger x)))

They were actually victims. The only douchebag in the story was Zuckeberg. And all the characters ended up filthy rich in the end.

Yeah they were part victims, admittingly the concept they had was VERY similar to Facebook, but Facebook got where it was because it was free and not exclusive, as it started to expand. Making a comparison Twins invented EyeToy, then Zuckeberg invented Kinect. Same concept on the outside but on the inside completely different products!

And I was talking about when they came 5th in the Olympics after all the "We're row boating pros" bragging.



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NotStan said:
sapphi_snake said:
NotStan said:

I thought the movie was pretty nice, if a bit boring at times, I hated the douchebag twins, and they got what was coming in the end lol. Yeah I felt sorry for the guy, he pretty much got assspanked out of the company even though he was the first investor, I'd pretty disappointed in my friend and upset too.. But LOL

*SPOILER*

 

Newspaper article about animal cruelty, when he fed the Chicken a chicken burger x)))

They were actually victims. The only douchebag in the story was Zuckeberg. And all the characters ended up filthy rich in the end.

Yeah they were part victims, admittingly the concept they had was VERY similar to Facebook, but Facebook got where it was because it was free and not exclusive, as it started to expand. Making a comparison Twins invented EyeToy, then Zuckeberg invented Kinect. Same concept on the outside but on the inside completely different products!

And I was talking about when they came 5th in the Olympics after all the "We're row boating pros" bragging.

Yeah, that was funny. But it wasn't just the ideea that he stole, but also that code thingy (I'm sure other people on this site know what I'm thinking about). Zuckerberg was sneaky, manipulative, backstabbing, egocentric, and just plain evil. He's by far on e of the biggest villains I've seen in a long time in a movie. And the scary part is that that guy exists in real life.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)