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nikosx on 12 January 2011
Squilliam said:

I doubt that Sony would do anything other than encourage additional hacking of their system by doing this. If sueing was so effective then why didn't Apple sue Geohot? It isn't like they've shown much restraint in the past.

They didn't sue him because the hack it didn't hurt IPhone HW sales. 



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Hephaestos on 12 January 2011
nikosx said:
Squilliam said:

I doubt that Sony would do anything other than encourage additional hacking of their system by doing this. If sueing was so effective then why didn't Apple sue Geohot? It isn't like they've shown much restraint in the past.

They didn't sue him because the hack it didn't hurt IPhone HW sales. 


how does PS3 piracy hurt PS3 HW sales? to the contrary, they increase...



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Hephaestos on 12 January 2011
NiKKoM said:
Squilliam said:

I doubt that Sony would do anything other than encourage additional hacking of their system by doing this. If sueing was so effective then why didn't Apple sue Geohot? It isn't like they've shown much restraint in the past.

cause they lost the lawsuit for jailbreaking in general.. the court founded jailbreaking legal http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/07/26 ... so hacking your PS3 will probably not be illegal so the only thing to get Geohot on is releasing the keys... which probably is just a math sum and I don't think you can claim that.. I can't blaim sony for not trying to get money somewhere from someone..

That's exactly what I thought when reading this... first thing I checked was if the suit was in the US. So I gather from this that the jailbreak rulling hasn't been reversed? In which case, this puts all platform hacking as legal (then is the software issue).

The keys are not pattented or copyrighted I would think... that would requier them to be priinted and public, no?



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nikosx on 12 January 2011
damndl0ser said:

If this guy was "smart" he would have sold his technique to the chinese and become a multimillionaire over night.  Instead he gave it away free and will probably be broke the rest of his life.  No matter if he wins or not, he will have to spend whatever money he has on lawyers and Sony can and will drag this out as long as they possibly can just to make this poor bastard pay.  Even though they know they will probably lose this case.  "Apple has already went down this road and lost".

I really don't understand a lot of these posts in here about the guy doing this all for Pirating.  He has stated over and over that the onlything he wanted to do was have homebrew on the PS3.  Sony took out Linux and they should have known that was a big mistake.  Where there is a will there is a way and I think that has been proven now. So instead of just having linux and homebrew, they have that and the ability for millions to pirate games.

While I do not pirate games, I will probably end up "hacking" my console to add a truly epic media center (Like the old XBMC on the original xbox).  The original xbmc was awesome, and I dare say that the one that eventually comes out for the ps3 will be awe inspiring.  I am also guessing that there will be a better browser coming as well.  Only time will tell what kind of awesome sauce is made.  And I can't wait.

What If someone copies the key to YOUR house and sells it on the web for free. He's doesn't want to hurt you and he's not responsible what others do with the keys. Is this ok for you?



nikosx on 12 January 2011
Hephaestos said:
nikosx said:
Squilliam said:

I doubt that Sony would do anything other than encourage additional hacking of their system by doing this. If sueing was so effective then why didn't Apple sue Geohot? It isn't like they've shown much restraint in the past.

They didn't sue him because the hack it didn't hurt IPhone HW sales. 


how does PS3 piracy hurt PS3 HW sales? to the contrary, they increase...

piracy hurts  SW sales!

HW sales = no or little profit

SW sales = big profit



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Cypher1980 on 12 January 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:

Good....I hope they win


They have no chance of winning. Reverse engineering a product which is essentially what GeoHot has done is totally legal.

Sony surely have better things to spend money on...



Cypher1980 on 12 January 2011
nikosx said:
damndl0ser said:

If this guy was "smart" he would have sold his technique to the chinese and become a multimillionaire over night.  Instead he gave it away free and will probably be broke the rest of his life.  No matter if he wins or not, he will have to spend whatever money he has on lawyers and Sony can and will drag this out as long as they possibly can just to make this poor bastard pay.  Even though they know they will probably lose this case.  "Apple has already went down this road and lost".

I really don't understand a lot of these posts in here about the guy doing this all for Pirating.  He has stated over and over that the onlything he wanted to do was have homebrew on the PS3.  Sony took out Linux and they should have known that was a big mistake.  Where there is a will there is a way and I think that has been proven now. So instead of just having linux and homebrew, they have that and the ability for millions to pirate games.

While I do not pirate games, I will probably end up "hacking" my console to add a truly epic media center (Like the old XBMC on the original xbox).  The original xbmc was awesome, and I dare say that the one that eventually comes out for the ps3 will be awe inspiring.  I am also guessing that there will be a better browser coming as well.  Only time will tell what kind of awesome sauce is made.  And I can't wait.

What If someone copies the key to YOUR house and sells it on the web for free. He's doesn't want to hurt you and he's not responsible what others do with the keys. Is this ok for you?


Worst analogy EVER !



damndl0ser on 12 January 2011
Cypher1980 said:
nikosx said:
damndl0ser said:

If this guy was "smart" he would have sold his technique to the chinese and become a multimillionaire over night.  Instead he gave it away free and will probably be broke the rest of his life.  No matter if he wins or not, he will have to spend whatever money he has on lawyers and Sony can and will drag this out as long as they possibly can just to make this poor bastard pay.  Even though they know they will probably lose this case.  "Apple has already went down this road and lost".

I really don't understand a lot of these posts in here about the guy doing this all for Pirating.  He has stated over and over that the onlything he wanted to do was have homebrew on the PS3.  Sony took out Linux and they should have known that was a big mistake.  Where there is a will there is a way and I think that has been proven now. So instead of just having linux and homebrew, they have that and the ability for millions to pirate games.

While I do not pirate games, I will probably end up "hacking" my console to add a truly epic media center (Like the old XBMC on the original xbox).  The original xbmc was awesome, and I dare say that the one that eventually comes out for the ps3 will be awe inspiring.  I am also guessing that there will be a better browser coming as well.  Only time will tell what kind of awesome sauce is made.  And I can't wait.

What If someone copies the key to YOUR house and sells it on the web for free. He's doesn't want to hurt you and he's not responsible what others do with the keys. Is this ok for you?


Worst analogy EVER !


I was going to say that also but you beat me too it.  Since he doesn't understand even his on analogy I will try and help him.  First of all Geohot isn't giving people a copy of anyone elses "key"  he is allowing them to make their own copies.  so as for your example.  He is just giving me the machine to copy my own key.  DOH..... That would be great, now I can make as many keys to my house as I ever want! YIPPIE!!  I love me some keys....



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damndl0ser on 12 January 2011
Cypher1980 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Good....I hope they win


They have no chance of winning. Reverse engineering a product which is essentially what GeoHot has done is totally legal.

Sony surely have better things to spend money on...

All they are trying to do is show "others" who have the intention of doing similar things that we can and will make your life miserable for a long time.   This GeoHot guy is going to be broke for the rest of his life almost any way this thing plays out.  So I hope he does put up a legal defense fund, I would bet he ends up getting a decent amount from people who feel sorry for him.  I may even donate a few bucks and I haven't even hacked my PS3.



"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

Quote by- The Imortal John Wayne, the original BADASS!

 

 

 

Cthulhu on 12 January 2011

I dont think they will win (i hope they win) but at least they try