richardhutnik said:
axt113 said:
rocketpig said:
There are a whole lot of people here confusing the economic ideals and social ideals of fascism. Not everything is clearly "right wing" or "left wing". In the case of fascism (and Nazis in particular), there's a decided split between those ideals, one being slightly left-leaning while the other is far right.
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Well if we go by the Nolan chart that Richard showed, Fascism would be the lower left of the box, low economic and personal freedom, so in that sense it would be split as it would incorporate the lack of freedom from both the left and right wing
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Assuming that Wikipedia is at least on the same street as the ballpark, here is what it says about Fascism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
It is an entirely different system that would put a nation above all else, as opposed to Communism that lifts the working man (proletariet) globally. In both systems, you end up having a system where the state makes all the decisions.
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Only economically with regards to communism, if you read the communist manifesto this the intent:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
In fact Marx was concerned that Democracy in a capitalism is only democracy for the rich, and that it is controlled by coporate interests, so the idea that fascism and Marxism lead to the same result is false, as Fascismdid not do away with the wealthy and ifact rejects class warfare, whereas communism does not