i never said it was only for kinect,please go back and follow my posts in this thread

i was just referring to the $500m geared towards making Kinect popular for xbox.it to change the branding like SONY did with PS3 slim.

just saying we don't know this we don't know that does nothing for you,you can keep saying that all your life to run away from things but we debate on what information we have got now

i understand what he is trying to say but he also means that MS was working towards kinect and that should be counted towards MS's contribution.

i am not taking the credit away from Microsoft,just saying that it wasn't done with kinect in mind.we can give the credit to microsft for the amazing tech but we shouldn't say that Kinect development was done for so many years before Project natal came in.

MS has done alot but main thing after they started working on project natal was done by Primesense tech and much older tech for windows developed by Microsoft.

I think that right there is the problem here. MS did far more than prime sense. All prime sense supplied was the hardware. MS created their own software for the skeletal tracking, the facial recogniton, and voice recognition. You know all the stufff that makes kinect kinect. Seems like your saying primesense did the bulk of the work when they did not. As far as I know. I could be wrong, Daraomer probably know more about it than me from the looks of it.

you talk as if primsense supplied wood and microsoft cut it and packaged it

tracking is what kinect sells on and its main advertised feature

i never said primsense did the most for kinect. but main thing after they started working on project natal was done by Primesense

what i mean to say is the main feature was the tracking by hardware which MS built their stuff around

and i didn't even discuss who did what?

MS has done alot but main thing after they started working on project natal was done by Primesense tech and much older tech for windows developed by Microsoft.

my earlier replies were more geared towards what MS did solely for kinect not primsense vs microsoft as you think.

They did the facial recogniton, voice recogniton, and gesture recogniton, you make it sound as if that doesn't count since they use that tech elseware also. But it was still researched for kinect also. That is how you are trying to downplay what MS did. I can't lay it out any better than this. Maybe reread some of what you said.

thranx said:

They did the facial recogniton, voice recogniton, and gesture recogniton, you make it sound as if that doesn't count since they use that tech elseware also. But it was still researched for kinect also. That is how you are trying to downplay what MS did. I can't lay it out any better than this. Maybe reread some of what you said.

i never said it was only for kinect,please go back and follow my posts in this thread

i was just referring to the $500m geared towards making Kinect popular for xbox.it to change the branding like SONY did with PS3 slim.

just saying we don't know this we don't know that does nothing for you,you can keep saying that all your life to run away from things but we debate on what information we have got now

i understand what he is trying to say but he also means that MS was working towards kinect and that should be counted towards MS's contribution.

i am not taking the credit away from Microsoft,just saying that it wasn't done with kinect in mind.we can give the credit to microsft for the amazing tech but we shouldn't say that Kinect development was done for so many years before Project natal came in.

MS has done alot but main thing after they started working on project natal was done by Primesense tech and much older tech for windows developed by Microsoft.

Seriously do you even read what you write. Bolded contradicts it self, if that is the word. You first said that you didnt refer to it then you did like a line later.

Yeah I cbf with this we are going around in circles. You keep telling me what I can't do but then you keep doing the same thing.

can you tell me what i didn't refer to and what you are talking about?

i never told what you can do or not,its your will what you want to do

I love how people always try to downplay Microsofts role in Kinect by saying "oh, they just bought it" when that's far from the truth.  A lot of the software that drives Kinect (including much of the skeletal recognition algorithms) was developed by Microsoft and much of it had been in development for many years before there was a "Project Natal".

Do you have any kind of source on what Microsoft spent on R&D for the device?

You stated that You didnt mention the whole 500million was for Kinect, then the next line you said you were referring to the 500 million for Kinect. Get your facts straight. Read back in your own quotes.

but for what?

i was using them in different places for different discussion points not the same

i am not going back,the quote logs are too messy

as you know it,in your next post

post my replies and the comments they were replied too and the entire thing not just itsy bitsy you want