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zarx on 04 January 2011

first benchmarks of the new sandy bridge CPUs are coming in 

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Intel-Core-i72600K-and-i52500K-Processors-Debut/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/1

the i7 2600K ($317) outperforms the $1,000 plus i7 975 and over-clocks better



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Soleron on 04 January 2011
zarx said:

the i7 2600K ($317) outperforms the $1,000 plus i7 975 and over-clocks better

They could have released something that performs that well two years ago at that price, and profited, if only there had been competition. I view this as a great price drop but no significant advance in CPU tech.



zarx on 04 January 2011
Soleron said:
zarx said:

the i7 2600K ($317) outperforms the $1,000 plus i7 975 and over-clocks better

They could have released something that performs that well two years ago at that price, and profited, if only there had been competition. I view this as a great price drop but no significant advance in CPU tech.


it also out uses less power overclocks to over 4GHz on air has an integrated GPU and some advancements to things like video encoding, but yes it is clearly a "tok" can't wait to see what the high end chips can do. 



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ssj12 on 05 January 2011
Soleron said:
zarx said:

the i7 2600K ($317) outperforms the $1,000 plus i7 975 and over-clocks better

They could have released something that performs that well two years ago at that price, and profited, if only there had been competition. I view this as a great price drop but no significant advance in CPU tech.


It might not be a major advancement, but the quad core performance about match the six-cores. I'm wondering what the performance of a six core sandy bridge will be like.

Still really I was never to excited about sandy bridge, hence why I bought my i7-950. If I remember right its the next "tick" in the chart that will be really nice, which should be Intel first new 28nm CPU versus a scale down of sandy bridge to 28nm. So by the time I'm ready to upgrade my CPU, and mobo, four years should pass.



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pacman91 on 05 January 2011

translation; my laptop will be absolete in a year or so :(



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ghost_of_fazz on 05 January 2011
HappySqurriel said:
ssj12 said:
HappySqurriel said:
ssj12 said:
HappySqurriel said:
NJ5 said:

There is one rather stupid thing and one rather scary/disturbing thing about these new CPUs (correct me if I'm wrong):

- stupid thing: the highest-end, overclockable Sandy Bridge CPUs have substantially better integrated graphics hardware, occupying a large portion of the chip as the picture in the OP shows. But the people who want to buy these highest-end chips are the ones who will rarely use the integrated graphics, obviously they will buy a good standalone graphics card instead. This looks like a waste of transistors and die area in these models.

- scary/disturbing thing: these CPUs can be remotely switched off by Intel:

http://www.techspot.com/news/41643-intels-sandy-bridge-processors-have-a-remote-kill-switch.html

The second one by itself is enough to make me very wary of buying one.

While I agree these integrated chips are problematic at the moment, if ATI/nVidia can work out solutions similar to the hybrid crossfirex to take advantage of these GPUs (or developers take advantage of these chips) it might not be such a waste


Doesn't Nvidia have that hybrid SLI thing where when your not using intense graphics solutions notebooks switch to the integrated solution. Couldn't they do the same thing here to save power and cut heat in a desktop?

You could do that, although I'm not certain it would have as much value as similar solutions have on notebooks ...


considering the amount of enviromental minded people realizing less electricity used the lower the bill at the end of the month is, could be a decent selling point for people. At least it could be a selling point at Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Even I'd consider it as a worthwhile feature if I was to build a new or upgrade my current a desktop in 4 years.


I don't disagree, I just think that a laptop that has a much longer battery life is a better selling feature than a desktop that uses less power.

For me it's a good selling point. Sometimes I've considered buying a netbook with the purpose of consuming less electricity while downloading or listening to music. Nothing else.

Anyway... I wonder how these things perform on 3D rendering. Gotta check those benchmarks.



NJ5 on 05 January 2011
zarx said:

first benchmarks of the new sandy bridge CPUs are coming in 

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Intel-Core-i72600K-and-i52500K-Processors-Debut/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/1

the i7 2600K ($317) outperforms the $1,000 plus i7 975 and over-clocks better


I thought the only $1000 Intel CPUs were 6-core (desktop CPUs I mean)... How can they justify the price of the i7 975 when the i7 980x is basically the same price with 2 more cores and the same clock rate?

I gotta be missing something here.



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NJ5 on 05 January 2011
ssj12 said:


It might not be a major advancement, but the quad core performance about match the six-cores. I'm wondering what the performance of a six core sandy bridge will be like.

(...)

Not when you look at benchmarks of software which is really good with six cores, for example:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/39555-intel-sandy-bridge-core-i5-2500k-core-i7-2600k-processors-review-11.html

The i7 980x beats the i7-2600k by almost 50%, which is just what you would expect when going from 4 to 6 cores at a slightly smaller clock rate.

These new CPUs are nice, but they're certainly not mindblowing as far as raw CPU performance goes (i.e. ignoring the specific optimizations to graphics and video rendering).



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zarx on 05 January 2011
NJ5 said:
zarx said:

first benchmarks of the new sandy bridge CPUs are coming in 

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Intel-Core-i72600K-and-i52500K-Processors-Debut/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/1

the i7 2600K ($317) outperforms the $1,000 plus i7 975 and over-clocks better


I thought the only $1000 Intel CPUs were 6-core (desktop CPUs I mean)... How can they justify the price of the i7 975 when the i7 980x is basically the same price with 2 more cores and the same clock rate?

I gotta be missing something here.

IDK but you can't argue with the truth 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=980x-_-19-115-223-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115212&cm_re=975-_-19-115-212-_-Product



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