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Squilliam on 19 December 2010
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:

Why would anyone get a GT240 for PhysX? Hardly any games support it especially the bigger games. He'd be far better off spending that money on a faster CPU and getting more general purpose performance.

Also good basic generic RAM is fine for just running a PC within normal parameters. You don't need a fancy cooler for memory so something basic like Kingston works just as well as anything which costs 10-30% more.

G.Skill memory is not expensive, is very good with voltage, and is very stable, not to mention they do RMA very fast if shit happens, at least in the US. I don't know about that Lalaland Mum is from.

GT240 would be a waste of money indeed. For general media quality, ability to support more than 3 monitors on the go, 3D gaming, 3D movies, good power consumption, and good gaming performance, etc, go with the 6850 for now.

Well I'll put it this way, its probably not worth much of a premium over good quality generic stuff but if its cheap then go for it. I don't think overclocking RAM matters so much given the fact that all of the CPUs have been optimised for slower stock standard DDR3 and all have very large L2/L3 caches.

@GTX 460: It has been discontinued due to the fact that the GTX 560 is coming out in January.



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dahuman on 19 December 2010
Squilliam said:
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:

Why would anyone get a GT240 for PhysX? Hardly any games support it especially the bigger games. He'd be far better off spending that money on a faster CPU and getting more general purpose performance.

Also good basic generic RAM is fine for just running a PC within normal parameters. You don't need a fancy cooler for memory so something basic like Kingston works just as well as anything which costs 10-30% more.

G.Skill memory is not expensive, is very good with voltage, and is very stable, not to mention they do RMA very fast if shit happens, at least in the US. I don't know about that Lalaland Mum is from.

GT240 would be a waste of money indeed. For general media quality, ability to support more than 3 monitors on the go, 3D gaming, 3D movies, good power consumption, and good gaming performance, etc, go with the 6850 for now.

Well I'll put it this way, its probably not worth much of a premium over good quality generic stuff but if its cheap then go for it. I don't think overclocking RAM matters so much given the fact that all of the CPUs have been optimised for slower stock standard DDR3 and all have very large L2/L3 caches.

@GTX 460: It has been discontinued due to the fact that the GTX 560 is coming out in January.


even as regular DDR3-1333 memory, I'd say go for G.Skill, they are not anymore expensive than generic memory really, they are just good quality. Currently I don't see any reason to go beyond 1600 tbh and those are not expensive either especially during the current holidays.



dahuman on 19 December 2010
ssj12 said:
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:
ssj12 said:
Mummelmann said:

I'm looking to replace my GPU, add more RAM and I'm getting a new monitor. The monitor is settled, I know which one to get. I'm also getting Windows 7, since XP won't allow more than 4GB total system memory (probably go for the 64 bit version).

Now, to my questions, its been a while since I did this;

1: Do I need to replace my motherboard as well? I currently have the aging Asus P5B, P965 Socket-775, ATX. It only has DIMM 240 support (and DDR2 SDRAM) as far as I know, the 6GB memory I want is probably not going to run on this and I'm also unsure of whether it will run a modern GPU. I know it runs most DX10 cards though.

2: Which GPU would you recommend? Not too highly priced, looking for the low range high performance or high range medium performance sort, preferably ATi, I just like the ATi setups better. No crossfire or SLI, takes too much space and power, I want to keep using my Hiper 580W power supply.

3: Will a newer graphics card even fit into my Thermaltake Aguila cabinet? I remember there being scant room even for the X1950XTX when we put it in.

4: Which memory manufacturer? I know that most Corsair and Kingston chips are decently priced and run well, not looking to overclock them btw.

Thanks in advance for all help!


ok since i somehow glitched my browser and erased a very large response. Im posting a shortened version.

Mobo, get a micro-atx. For cost, get amd. Unless you can afford performance then intel.

GPU, GTX460 if you can afford it. Later, get a GT240 for physx if you have room on the mobo later on.

ram, gskill is excellent. Otherwise get mushkin.

Why would anyone get a GT240 for PhysX? Hardly any games support it especially the bigger games. He'd be far better off spending that money on a faster CPU and getting more general purpose performance.

Also good basic generic RAM is fine for just running a PC within normal parameters. You don't need a fancy cooler for memory so something basic like Kingston works just as well as anything which costs 10-30% more.

G.Skill memory is not expensive, is very good with voltage, and is very stable, not to mention they do RMA very fast if shit happens, at least in the US. I don't know about that Lalaland Mum is from.

GT240 would be a waste of money indeed. For general media quality, ability to support more than 3 monitors on the go, 3D gaming, 3D movies, good power consumption, and good gaming performance, etc, go with the 6850 for now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130562  cheaper then the 6850, you do not need the latest mid-range card to play current games and with the GTX460 you would be fantastic for a few years as its highly overclockable.

As for the GT240, it has its benefits later on if he wants to buy it later on. Here are tons of games that support it. Many big PC titles including Sarced 2, UT3, and Batman: AA. Future titles will include Batman: AC. Its a 9600GT, but was my efficient. I have a 9600GT in my PC and it works wonders in many titles, and my benchmarks are alot better with it than without it.

http://www.geforce.com/#/GamesandApps and click Physx.

I'm not too worried about Physx these days, I did have a dedicated card myself, but with DX11 and OpenCL, how much longer will it last before going open source? There is just no point getting a dedicated card in the future with the way things are heading towards to. Also, the OP doesn't want to OC, as a full package without OC, 6850 is more attractive than a Nvidia card when counting the overall features.