That is why I stay in Arizona. It will be around 80 today. :P

Fools it's summer!

1)  Yes?  When their solutions aren't helpful.

2) I'm guessing you haven't been keeping up with the climate control panels.  You can't get to the wanted levels without either gutting all your buisness or greatly reducing consumption, look at europe where they already have a lot of enviromental taxes.

3) See the IPCC and pretty much MOST global warming advocates.  They aren't fans of geoengineering mostly because of political worries.  Look at how Super Freaknomics got trashed by even bringing UP the issue.  It's taken kicking and screaming to barely get any attention when in reality, that's where all the money for global warming should go.  It doesn't take money to get government action, and spending money will probably cause a larger carbon footpring on the adds then it will replace.   It's all rarely talked about though for political reasons.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/geoengineering/

4)  Not at all.  By  "don't touch it" i mean, avoid an actual solution and let whatever problem is there stays there.  People who are against global warming are saying "How about showing me some real science".  

It's one thing to believe a problem and pick an assbackwords way to deal with it.

It's another to ask for a little proof before you act.

please don't turn this into a global warming topic. If you want to discuss the merits of global warming please do so in another thread. This thread is about crying over how much snow you've had to shovel in the last few days

Can I atleast taunt everybody that it's 65 degrees where i am right now?

Only had one day of snow so far, had to shovel it twice, but it's gone now. They've predicted it's going to be a record breaking winter, but at the moment, it's mild, like last year.

this is exactly how I view it too!

sure, it is all in good fun

We just got another 12" of snow yesterday (another record for 4 this year so far), and probably 3-4" of snow this morning. I shoveled my driveway 3 times in the last 24 hours. We are supposed to get another 2-6" today and then get another break from the snow until at least monday.

So, Syracuse has gotten 5.5 ft in December, and Clay (north of Syracuse by a couple miles) has gotten over 6ft. Just to further show how rediculous this amount of snow is. We've already eclipsed 1/2 of our average season total and we're over 1/3 of our record season total.

I should take a picture of the snow bank and the end of my driveway. It is getting so huge I don't have anywhere to put the snow without carrying it out in the street or up my driveway. The neighbor let me borrow their 35yo snow blower and it can't get the snow over the top either