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ArnoldRimmer said:

 

So it's of course correct to say similar or even worse things happen in countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Syria etc. as well. But are those countries really the kind of league Israel wants play in, the kind of countries Israel wants to be compared to? That's like the school kid who excuses his bad grades in school by saying "There were two kids who got even worse grades, so what are you complaining about anyway?"


Dude, here in Israel, there a lot of pepole who despise a lot of the "leaders" of the jewish religon, we see them as parasites, bigoted, arrogant fools, who want to do nothing but strengthen their political and religous power on the expense of most of the citizens of Israel, and probably the future of Israel itself.

Israel as a whole is one of the most not-unified countries in the world (and that's a big problem here but oh well), you should never take something that anyone said here as some sort of a statement describing the eintirety of Israel.



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Joelcool7 said:

While I have to say it is disgusting to attack people's ethnicity and faith in such a demeaning manner. Hamas and Palestinian and Muslim leaders do far worse. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is going way to far, Israel isn't rounding up Muslims and executing them or throwing them in concentration camps.

Actually Israel does have a concentration camp, it's called Gaza Strip. I'm sure many agree with me.

But why are you talking about muslims? The news is strictly about arabs, not muslims.



shio said:
Joelcool7 said:

While I have to say it is disgusting to attack people's ethnicity and faith in such a demeaning manner. Hamas and Palestinian and Muslim leaders do far worse. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is going way to far, Israel isn't rounding up Muslims and executing them or throwing them in concentration camps.

Actually Israel does have a concentration camp, it's called Gaza Strip. I'm sure many agree with me.

But why are you talking about muslims? The news is strictly about arabs, not muslims.

I... somehow doubt that.

For one, it's not like the Jewish people could eaisly get out of "concentration camps" by not holding out for a better deal.

Also, I don't remember the jewish people firing rockets at Nazis from concentration camps.

Nor do I recall Israel making use of gas chambers to intentionally kill everyone.



shio said:
Dozens of Israeli rabbis back call to forbid sale of property to Arabs

Dozens of Israeli rabbis today backed a call to forbid Jews to rent or sell property to Arabs in a move likely to further stoke tensions in some cities.

More than 40 municipal chief rabbis, whose salaries are paid from public funds, signed a letter in support of a ruling by Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu of Safed in Upper Gallilee instructing his followers not to offer accommodation to non-Jews.

Anyone doing so, the letter said, "causes his neighbour a great loss, and his iniquity is greater than can be borne". It went on: "It is incumbent upon the seller's neighbours and acquaintances to warn and caution, first in private and then they are entitled to publish him in public, to distance themselves from him, to prevent trade from being done with him, not to have him read from the Torah and so forth until he reverses his decision that causes harm to so many people."

Following Eliyahu's earlier ruling, an 89-year-old Holocaust survivor who rents out rooms to three Arab students in Safed was threatened with having his house burned down and was denounced as a traitor to Judaism.

Safed, which has a large conservative ultra-orthodox population, has become a focus of anti-Arab sentiment although rabbis in other cities have also warned Jewish residents against renting or selling to non-Jews.

The Association for Civil Rights in Israel demanded that the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, condemn the rabbis' letter and take disciplinary action against those employed by the state.

"Rabbis who are civil servants have an obligation to the entire public, including Israel's Arab citizens. It is unthinkable that they would use their public status to promote racism and incitement," ACRI said in a statement.

Israeli-Arabs, who make up about 20% of the population of Israel, say they are facing increasing racism and discrimination.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/israeli-rabbis-ban-rental-sale-to-arabs

 

Is Israel today's nazi state?

here we go again with the anti-semitism...



"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"

"England expects that everyman will do his duty"

"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"

 

NKAJ said:

here we go again with the anti-semitism...

Anti-semitism is one thing, anti-zionism is another.



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mai said:

NKAJ said:

here we go again with the anti-semitism...

Anti-semitism is one thing, anti-zionism is another.


I stand corrected...still isn't a good thing though...shio only ever posts one side of the story



"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"

"England expects that everyman will do his duty"

"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"

 

mai said:

NKAJ said:

here we go again with the anti-semitism...

Anti-semitism is one thing, anti-zionism is another.


Yes, but calling Israel Nazi, and treating the Gaza strip (a place in which population is rapidly rising, and pepole don't die of hunger) a consentration camp is anti-semitism.



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RageBot said:
mai said:

NKAJ said:

here we go again with the anti-semitism...

Anti-semitism is one thing, anti-zionism is another.


Yes, but calling Israel Nazi, and treating the Gaza strip (a place in which population is rapidly rising, and pepole don't die of hunger) a consentration camp is anti-semitism.

I called Israel a nazi state, not that israelis are nazis. And it's still doesn't make sense what you said because a part of the population is not even jewish or are against zionism.

But the truth is that the israeli government's actions scream modern nazis, by making the Gaza Strip a prison despite almost all of the prisoners being innocent people. Using children as meat shields, using illegal/banned weapons to kill palestinians randomly, murdering humanitarians, etc...

I'm not anti-semitism, I'm anti-zionism.



shio said:

 Israeli-Arabs, who make up about 20% of the population of Israel, say they are facing increasing racism and discrimination.

From the look of it, there're people of even Jewish decent or considered Jewish outside of Israel  feel opressed due to their nationality. Here's quote from "The Invention of the Jewish People" by Shlomo Sand:


The other student, whose name was Larissa, was born in 1984 in a small town in Siberia. Soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union, in the early 1990s, her parents migrated to Israel, where they were sent to a so-called development town in the Upper Galilee. There Larissa was brought up amid a balance of immigrant and Israeli children, and appeared to integrate well. She began to speak Hebrew like a Sabra and was content with herself and with daily life in Israel. Sometimes she was upset when called a Russian and teased because of her golden hair, but that was how local youngsters treated newly arrived children. In the year 2000, at age sixteen, she went to the Ministry of the Interior office to obtain her first identity card. She was received cordially by a woman clerk and given an application form to complete. When it came to the question of nationality, she asked, naively, if she could write "Jewish." The clerk looked through the information she had already entered and explained, apologetically, that she could not. She would be in the same category as her mother, and thus bear the taunting title "Russian." Later she would say at that moment she felt the same pain as when she began to menstruate—something that occurs in nature and can never be got rid of. Larissa was not the only girl in the town who bore this mark of Cain. At school they even formed a sorority of non-Jewish girls. They shielded each other and tried to smudge the nationality information on their identity cards to make it illegible, but that didn't work and they had to continue to carry the incriminating document. At seventeen they all hastened to get a driver's license, as that did not detail nationality and could substitute for an identity card. Then came the school's "Roots" trip to the death camps in Poland. A problem arose. To obtain a passport, Larissa had to bring her identity card to school. Fear that the entire class would discover her secret, as well as her parents' limited means, made her forgo the trip. So she didn't get to see Auschwitz, which has gradually been replacing Masada as the site of formative memory in modern Jewish identity. She was, however, conscripted into national military service, and although she tried to use her Russian national status to avoid the draft—even writing a long letter to the recruiting office about it—her request was turned down. Military service actually did Larissa some good. Fumbling for the Bible during the swearing-in ceremony, she trembled and even shed tears. For a moment she forgot the little cross she had received from her maternal grandmother upon leaving Russia as a little girl. Once in uniform, she felt she belonged, and was convinced that from now on she would be taken for an Israeli in every way. She turned her back on the detested, faltering Russian culture of her parents, choosing to date only Sabras and avoiding Russian men. Nothing pleased her more than to be told she did not look Russian, despite the suspicious color of her hair.



shio said:
RageBot said:
mai said:

NKAJ said:

 here we go again with the anti-semitism...

Anti-semitism is one thing, anti-zionism is another.


Yes, but calling Israel Nazi, and treating the Gaza strip (a place in which population is rapidly rising, and pepole don't die of hunger) a consentration camp is anti-semitism.

I called Israel a nazi state, not that israelis are nazis. And it's still doesn't make sense what you said because a part of the population is not even jewish or are against zionism.

But the truth is that the israeli government's actions scream modern nazis, by making the Gaza Strip a prison despite almost all of the prisoners being innocent people. Using children as meat shields, using illegal/banned weapons to kill palestinians randomly, murdering humanitarians, etc...

 

I thought you were talking about Israel, not Hamas, it seems you got the names wrong ;)

Anyway, pepole in the Gaza Strop live way better than the way you make them out to be.

And still, do you understand the absurdity of calling Israel a Nazi state? Do you understand the incredible difference between the Gaza Strip and WW2's gettos?



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