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twesterm on 07 December 2010
makingmusic476 said:

I'm finding this to be the case everywhere these days.  Every job I've ever had (going on six) was made available through someone I knew, and at the one job in which I was somewhat involved in the hiring process, we mostly took in people familiar to other employees, since we had problems with the employees we hired through the traditional apply/interview method - even those that seemed like amazing people when we initially met them.

So now I'm in a temp position doing stock, a job I landed solely because two of my sisters were former employees at the same location.  Between the other two people hired for the holidays, one was related to a current employee, and the other was a former employee.  And we'll all be let go come December.


That is very true and that's why networking is SO important.  If you're just getting your foot in the door or don't have a strong network of contacts try a recruiter.  They will find you a job.  It may not be your dream job, but it will be in the relevant field, get you contacts, and get you experience.

Remember, recruiters only get paid when you get paid.



 

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d21lewis on 07 December 2010

My mom's work place shut down after probably four decades of being productive, so she's unemployed.  She's definitely not lazy (and I actually don't want her to work--just took her out to breakfast, btw!) but personally, I don't know how to not have a job.  I rarely even take vacation days.  I guess we could blame it on laziness but the more likely culprit is that people didn't lay a proper foundation for themselves.  Jobs are out there but they may not be in the careers that people have gone to school for (what good is a degree in advertising?), are qualified for (criminal history), or actually want to do (I need a new ball shaver--the old one commited suicide).



MonstaMack on 07 December 2010

The real problem from what I heard is that most of the open jobs are retail and fast food etc, so a majority of people who made $20 an hour aren't going to work retail and make half that just to become employed. The job replacing the job they lost has to have a equal amount of income, otherwise why bother working when you can get paid for not working?

Keep in mind Obamadminstration is extending unemployment benefits for another year, so they have till January 2012 to find a job.



It's just that simple.

Lostplanet22 on 07 December 2010

Well I just hear that the low tax for the rich will cost easily the USA 600-800 billion dollars...

I can only think...'Damned that are a lot of jobs'....

The state should also be more strict....Don't have work but get money from the state.....Well then you should also do something for it...  Clean the streets, run errands for some companies, etc...


It is not good to sit whole day at him...Sure the first months after losing a job you will be pretty busy in finding a job..But after some time I find it hard to believe that you are jobhunting from 8 AM til 6 PM..



 

rocketpig on 07 December 2010

I quit my job and moved literally two weeks before the bank crash of 08. As a result, I ended up unemployed for over a year. It was brutal.

What did I do with that time? I searched for work, freelanced when possible, and went back to school to re-tool my skill set.

Now I have a great job and live very comfortably, doing similar work to what I used to do but I wouldn't have gotten this job without that additional schooling. If people sit on their ass and expect to find an equal replacement to their old job, they're in for an unpleasant surprise. Take advantage of the extra time you have and expand your knowledge base.




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Chairman-Mao on 07 December 2010

These people aren't lazy. They're just holding out for management positions.



Games4Fun on 07 December 2010
twesterm said:

I can believe it.  Either you're looking for a minimum wage service type job and just aren't looking or you aren't putting the effort into finding a career type job.  There's also the possibility that you're looking for a job you're just not suited for but let's ignore those people and assume people know what they can do.

For the minimum wage service type jobs, all it takes is looking.  You may not want to work at McDonald's but if that's all there is, then that's what you get.  Places like fast food, Wal-Mart (in the store and stocking/warehouse), and other jobs people generally consider shit jobs are always available.  If you can't find one of those, you just aren't looking hard enough.

For jobs that require some sort of training and could be a career type job, those take work and time to find.  Looking for 3-4 months for a job may sound insane but it's normal.  When you're looking for one of these jobs and it doesn't feel like a full time job just looking, you're doing ti wrong.  You have to be constantly searching, revising your resume/cover letter, sending out your resume/cover letter, (hopefully) interviewing, and following up.  You really should be spending all day every weekday on this.  If you're just waking up when the sun is warm and staying up until 4AM playing games, you are going to fail.  And if all else fails, see the above paragraph.


Thats a pretty bold statement that simply is not true. Of the 40 some apps I have put in in the last couple weeks most are these kinds of jobs. I was jobless for 7months or so awhile back and it does not matter where you put those apps in. I was even a 2nd asst, at a Mcdonalds that I worked at for  over  4 years. You would think I would be a shoe in for the Fast Food jobs, but no not at all. When I apply all i am applying for is crew.



dahuman on 07 December 2010

I actively looked for a job for about a month after I moved across the country then I was scouted by a company I didn't even apply to with the benefits I was looking for. I mean, the market is out there if you are in the right field at the right part of the country I suppose. I'm so good with general working ethics that I'm very depended upon no matter what job I do though so I doubt I'd ever have trouble finding jobs in general since I always have high level management to back up my resumes in big corps.



richardhutnik on 07 December 2010
Chairman-Mao said:

These people aren't lazy. They're just holding out for management positions.

If you have been management, and then try to apply for something not management, it is hard to get into.  Go too far down, and you get "overqualified".  In my case, I have a Masters degree.  Sure, I might be able to land seasonal employment, where you are gone in January.  But for more permanent things?  Well, it is a real challenge.



Chairman-Mao on 07 December 2010
richardhutnik said:
Chairman-Mao said:

These people aren't lazy. They're just holding out for management positions.

If you have been management, and then try to apply for something not management, it is hard to get into.  Go too far down, and you get "overqualified".  In my case, I have a Masters degree.  Sure, I might be able to land seasonal employment, where you are gone in January.  But for more permanent things?  Well, it is a real challenge.


I'm only 19 and in my undergrad program so I can't speak at all about job hunting or whatever, but I can't see it as being too hard to find a job with a masters degree. Now I understand the whole "overqualified" issue but it can't be that big of a drawback can it?