To be honest, I'm not an expert. But does sending products back actually make sense? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep these things in stock, sell it over time and not ordering new units of that product at the same time? I mean, shipping costs could be reduced by doing that.

Anyway, some people seem to think that Sony can easily ship millions and millions of units without any retailer wanting them, and that is just nonsense.

Gamestop must have Pachter as their shipment orderer

45-ish 160gig PS3's, more $400 Move bundles (I don't know how many but it looks like 11-12 of those, hard to count estimate because most are behind the other skus) downstairs.

Even more upstairs in our stockroom as I said if you actually read my post.

I don't know if you're familiar with Gamestop, but that isn't normal for a big Gamestop even at holiday, and this is what our small store has had since September.

It's like triple or more from last year.

Better idea!

GameStop's upper managment is run by communists who are recieving funding from Sony to accept PS3s and distribute them equally among their comrades (being the stores themselves)!

Or Sony bought Gamestop to stuff channel and lie to investors and beat M$, maybe real PS3 sales are 30M and this is why they sell so few games, all the systems are lurking in basements...

Or Maybe KB is the VP of Stuffing Gamestop

Or maybe that store isn't selling many PS3's because...  Well, let's just say that store employees have their console allegiances, too.

INFAMOUS you clearly don't understand how your own company works, i work for them too and yes, the manager is in charge of how much you order...

tell him to stop...

By the way.. pretty dumb post.. lol wow a stack of ps3's who cares dude.

Wow, there's quite a few people in this thread who don't know how corporate retail works. Sure, smaller stores (ie, not part of a large chain) have more direct control over what they order, and other industries (like fast food) also have more control at a store level. But a company like Gamestop or Best Buy doesn't work like this at a store.

For a large store, orders are placed somewhere in the corporate ladder. (Usually, this is at a regional warehouse.) This warehouse then ships out to the stores for replenishment. Now, though, is when things tend to get tricky. A product that is in abundance in a warehouse will frequently be told to move it out to make space for more stuff coming in- by getting more to stores, it facilitates a possible store-level promotion to remove stock at their end, or a larger company promotion. (Suffice it to say, if this supply has been growing since September, it's not for a promotion.) Also, if a warehouse has excess stock that it ships out, it will also tend to scale orders back... if it can.

What, "if"? Yes, there are times when companies institute "quota sales" on items. Standalone Move wands are in short supply in many areas. However, Sony may be setting a ratio on this item- for every 10 wands shipped, you must order 10 Move bundles and 10 PS3s. Since these are also items that will eventually sell, they go ahead and place the order to get what they need now- the wands. This does cause a glut of other products, which are also not returnable while the quota is in effect, since they would be negative values, and thus, lower the number of what they need being shipped.

There is one thing that the store should do, though: verify that the inventory in their own system is correct. If there was a missing purchase order (generated by regional warehouse) at the store level, the warehouse may think they have fewer systems, and thus, need more. (Usually this is a problem in reverse with restocking not happening from theft.) Otherwise, there's not much that can be done at the store level. They can make a request to not have any more shipped for a while, but the automation of the system means this will usually be ignored. Some chains may allow a district or regional manager to request a stop shipment, but this usually takes a drastic action. (I've seen this once in retail- our district manager saw that our stockroom was nothing more than a walking aisle from the backstock, and 16,000 more units were due in tomorrow morning.)

So it's not as simple as some would like it to be. And before anyone starts saying anything, I have seen all of these in my time with retail. I'm guessing it's the quota problem that's striking; it's been the reason behind almost every single overstocked item I've seen...

You will sell more PS3s than usual in December. That said, if a retailer does end up with excessive stock of a product, the company who provided the excess usually has to buy it back in the end.

Even tought as you said, the retailer (corporation) decided to accept the deal, it's not like Sony force them to accept, they just put a condition to a product (if this really happened in this case is another thing... and in Brazil this kind of bussiness model is mostly forbidden) and if the retailer accept they must have their reasons...

Blaming Sony to overstuffing when it can be a bad bussiness decision of your CEO or lack of pro-activity of the Manager is silly... Sony don't send them without ordering... so in the end is GS fault if they have overstock, not Sony... they will just work to send as many as possible... and Sony as japanese company works on demand model inside, little stocks...

In japan storage can be really expensive, so suplly is a really important issue, some american corporation still didn't learn it and get tossed around in world markets (Automanufacturer a great example of ass-whooping).

The GS Corp. can stop to buy products any time it wants, maybe they have something called a contract, and if breached will ensue a Law Suit... but again it's their fault if it's a bad decision - sony is no loan shark or drug dealler to force things... GS just thinks it's a good decision to buy like this because large supplies usually have better discounts and lower shipping fees...

And as you said... in the end all sells (in Brazil during inflation times, supllie were a great way to make money)