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greenmedic88 on 22 November 2010
rocketpig said:
SecondWar said:
Joelcool7 said:

This is pathetic and exactly why I don't buy Apple. It will have only been a year since the first I-Pad hit shelves and they are launching another one? I know every rich kid on the block is going to want one heck it even sounds cool to me. But the last one just came out. I know alot of Apple fans who bought the first one will go out and buy the new one, bringing sales higher and higher.

But is it a good investment for the average Canadian or American or European? Its an over sized I-Phone from what I've experianced. I remember seeing a tablet laptop by Acer a few years ago. The keyboard could slip out or you could use the touch screen. Sure the thing cost 1,200$ but it was sure alot more value then this over priced over sized phone.

Personally I'm looking at what Microsoft's going to put out with Windows 7, or the new Google pad. But I'm going to stay far away from the I-Pad. I don't have money to constantly upgrade every year!

Apple main objective as a business is to make money, of course theyre going to release a new version every year, but that doesnt mean you need to buy it every year. Look at the iPod range, same principle they release a new model every year. Currently the Nano is on its sixith iteration, but Im still using my third gen version. Why? Because I have had no need to 'upgrade'. But if theyre are people who are willing to do so every year, dont expect Apple to argue.

It's not even that... if Apple doesn't release a new model every year, they fall behind the competition.

EVERYONE releases a new model at least once a year. To flame Apple for it is downright stupid. You may as well flame every tech company on Earth for upgrading at all. Shit, maybe we should still be using Apple IIe's and Windows 3.1.

My iPhone is two generations old. My Macbook is 15 months old. My desktop is four years (yikes!) old. It's not as if anyone is holding a gun to our heads and forcing us to upgrade every 12 months.

I don't understand the complaint either.

It's like saying "They're releasing a 2011 model of the car I just bought in 2010!? I can't buy a new car every year!"

If anything, Apple's hardware update cycles are spread a little too evenly apart across all their product lines making some of the refreshes a step behind where they should be relative to the competition. Fortunately, because their hardware update cycles are so formulaic, it's easy for savvy consumers to know when to hold off on a purchase because a refresh or redesign is imminent.



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SecondWar on 22 November 2010
Galaki said:
dtewi said:

Who'd pay hundreds of bucks for what is essentially a laptop with its keyboard ripped off.

....wait.......


Ahaha, Id not looked it those in that way, but is pretty much spot on. To be honest though I prefer the chopped in half Macbook design in the OP to the oversized iPhone theyre currently selling.



oldschoolfool on 22 November 2010

I'm not big on apple,but this looks good.



rocketpig on 22 November 2010
Joelcool7 said:
rocketpig said:
SecondWar said:
Joelcool7 said:

This is pathetic and exactly why I don't buy Apple. It will have only been a year since the first I-Pad hit shelves and they are launching another one? I know every rich kid on the block is going to want one heck it even sounds cool to me. But the last one just came out. I know alot of Apple fans who bought the first one will go out and buy the new one, bringing sales higher and higher.

But is it a good investment for the average Canadian or American or European? Its an over sized I-Phone from what I've experianced. I remember seeing a tablet laptop by Acer a few years ago. The keyboard could slip out or you could use the touch screen. Sure the thing cost 1,200$ but it was sure alot more value then this over priced over sized phone.

Personally I'm looking at what Microsoft's going to put out with Windows 7, or the new Google pad. But I'm going to stay far away from the I-Pad. I don't have money to constantly upgrade every year!

Apple main objective as a business is to make money, of course theyre going to release a new version every year, but that doesnt mean you need to buy it every year. Look at the iPod range, same principle they release a new model every year. Currently the Nano is on its sixith iteration, but Im still using my third gen version. Why? Because I have had no need to 'upgrade'. But if theyre are people who are willing to do so every year, dont expect Apple to argue.

It's not even that... if Apple doesn't release a new model every year, they fall behind the competition.

EVERYONE releases a new model at least once a year. To flame Apple for it is downright stupid. You may as well flame every tech company on Earth for upgrading at all. Shit, maybe we should still be using Apple IIe's and Windows 3.1.

My iPhone is two generations old. My Macbook is 15 months old. My desktop is four years (yikes!) old. It's not as if anyone is holding a gun to our heads and forcing us to upgrade every 12 months.

Windows doesn't upgrade with a new OS every year. As for the TV argument I bought a 1080p TV two years ago. Sure their are new models that come out but the 1080p still does everything the new ones do for the most part. But creating a new version every year that does many things the last one didn't forcing consumers to upgrade is exactly why i don't buy PC's , or new phones etc...etc...

Now I'm not hating or flaming on Apple. Its just Apple's strategy is the reason I'm not a PC gamer, its the reason I own a shitty cell phone instead of buying the latest model. Its the reason I buy consoles. I know friends who have owned every I-Phone since launch every year they go to their provider and pay a fortune to upgrade to the latest phone, I know consumers with the I-Pad who are going to buy this new I-Pad the day it comes out.

The whole reason I buy consoles is because you don't need to upgrade every year. I buy the newest console once every five years. I don't need to buy a new model to play my favorite games or use my different Apps. Sure Apple makes a fortune but that is not the kind of company I like to buy from.

It may be I'm a cheap ass but to be honest I like my stuff to hold value at least more then a year. Maybe if Apple launched the new I-Pad in 2012 I'd consider buying one. If everyone else does the same thing then I'll probubly invest in a tablet PC instead like the one Acer made years ago.

Who here wants to shell out half a grand every year to have the latest model? Is everyone really that wealthy? If I do pick up a tablet I will be buying one for the next five years and as such am going to pick one not likely from Apple.

What does Windows have to do with this? Apple doesn't release an OS every year, either. Software is an entirely different ballgame than hardware.

I understand why you don't like 12 month refreshes but that's just the name of the game in computing hardware. Everyone does it. To point out that Apple participates in this industry-wide formula sounds like flaming.

Apple WILL release an iPad in 2012. And you know what? That iPad will still run all iOS updates for at least three years (though some features may be missing). Show me an Android device (other than top of the line hardware) that guarantees that kind of future security. If anything, Apple's one of the BEST companies about supporting old hardware. Their computers, phones, iPods, and tablets get support long after other companies have bailed out on their old hardware. Plus, Apple actually updates their lines LESS than many other manufacturers. You're barking up the wrong tree with this argument.




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dahuman on 22 November 2010
Squilliam said:
famousringo said:

Anecdotally, I've never seen any piece of tech get adopted at my workplace faster than the iPad. Not smartphones, not iPods, not Wiis, not even laptops. Half of management has one already. It's not for everybody -- one co-worker returned his because he's married to his MBP -- but most of them seem very happy with their purchase, and lots of people yet to own one seem envious.


Just another anecdote. I have friends with disabilities whom also have lots of friends with disabilities. I have never seen a computer system more easy to use. For instance I know someone who can't use his arms or legs can use an iPad. How can I hate on a device which has introduced computing to such a disadvantaged group? For many of these people the iPad was the first computer they could actually use! They never got to play with a normal PC and yet they pick up the intuitive interface a lot faster.

 Sure the thing has some downsides like no multitasking and maybe it could do with a little more performance. However the former can be dealt with on 4.2 OS which I get bugged about quite requently and the latter is going to be at least partially solved in a couple of months when the iPad 2.0 is released.

I agree with this, I mentioned old people earlier in this thread and they easily fall into this category as well. My mother has been using whatever Windows I'd get for her for the past 10 years and she's still struggling with some of the most simple things in a Windows environment, but I handed her my iPhone and she was playing with it and using it normally in the matter of a few minutes and she's not even that well versed in English. OSX and iOS are simply easier for a lot of people to use, sure, the flexibility is not there, but most people are NOT computer gurus. So if there is USB storage in any future version of an iPad, I'll surely buy her one, because I'm an awesome son.



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Squilliam on 22 November 2010
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:


Just another anecdote. I have friends with disabilities whom also have lots of friends with disabilities. I have never seen a computer system more easy to use. For instance I know someone who can't use his arms or legs can use an iPad. How can I hate on a device which has introduced computing to such a disadvantaged group? For many of these people the iPad was the first computer they could actually use! They never got to play with a normal PC and yet they pick up the intuitive interface a lot faster.

 Sure the thing has some downsides like no multitasking and maybe it could do with a little more performance. However the former can be dealt with on 4.2 OS which I get bugged about quite requently and the latter is going to be at least partially solved in a couple of months when the iPad 2.0 is released.

I agree with this, I mentioned old people earlier in this thread and they easily fall into this category as well. My mother has been using whatever Windows I'd get for her for the past 10 years and she's still struggling with some of the most simple things in a Windows environment, but I handed her my iPhone and she was playing with it and using it normally in the matter of a few minutes and she's not even that well versed in English. OSX and iOS are simply easier for a lot of people to use, sure, the flexibility is not there, but most people are NOT computer gurus. So if there is USB storage in any future version of an iPad, I'll surely buy her one, because I'm an awesome son.

I believe its because of the abstraction between the mouse and what happens on screen. She doesn't need to think move the mouse to move a pointer to click on an object. Touch screens are more of a direct interface and so is something like the Wiimote. They both require less effort mentally to actually use which makes them more accessible because your actions more directly effect what happens on the screen.

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