Crazy is alittle harsh. I actually agree with many of Khuutra's positions as well. Also I think both of us agree with you that all people should be treated as equals.

As for Black History month being racist. I agree in a way it teaches segregation. But it is also inciteful to learn about how your country has treated people of other races. Maybe their should be a racial awareness month instead though drawing attention and educating people about how the country has treated all races.

They're "more dangerous"? How so?

And determining motive is far more difficult and sticky than determining whether the person committed the crime, as there are several shades of grey left up to prosecuting individuals and their individual biases. A crime is a crime. Prosecute it as such. Adding subjective footnotes that increase or decrease time served only weakens the system.

Well your angle seems to be that we are some perfect utopia and his is that we are all spiteful lunatic racists.  Both positions, to me, seem to lack an actual connection with our reality.

personally, i think focusing on it specifically only seperates everyone all the more.  not that events shouldnt be covered and discussed, but it should be looked at as part of the history rather than cherry picking events throughout it all and lumping them all together.  If the events are important then they will stand out in their place in history and dont need something like a special month.

I claim nothing of the sort. Rather I am suggesting that Joelcool lacks perspective on racism in his own country. Presenting examples of racism in Canada is not the same thing as claiming that Canada is full of "spiteful lunatic racists"

Hate crimes are racist. Not the crime but the term itself. Hate Crimes only enforce the idea that races are so different that they need different treatments. Something tells me though that if the black man had went to the white mens' houses and harassed them they wouldn't have charged him with a hate crime because that would make the courts look racist. Its foolish the way that people are so completely scarred shitless to say anything to a black man because they might look racist. Where I used to work, a white man flipped off his supervisor and was fired. The next week a black man threw a book at him and threatened to kill him. He got moved to a different part of the building instead. Now its to the point where if ANYONE accuses a black man of ANYTHING he says "its because I'm black" and he instantly gets off of the hook. 

STOP ENFORCING THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE SO DIFFERENT AND RACIAL BIGOTRY WILL STOP GETTING SO OUT OF HAND!

For example, this came from the US Justice Department in 1995:

-Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white

So... how many blacks do you see getting charged with hate crimes?

Ummm I may lack some perspective. But you did say that us here in the North were worse then the racists in the South, you even suggested Canada is worse then America. You also tried very hard to point out how racist our country is and has been.

As for me thinking my country is Utopia, I am a little over patriotic and it probubly isn't as great as I make it sound but thats my perspective and I think hearings like this one show that Canada takes racism very seriously.

12 years is excessive.

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A huge difference.

1. Racists/homophobes exist and cause harm to others, witches don't.

2. Beign racist/homophobic is bad, being a witch is not.

3. How do you mean "marked"? It's very hard to prove someone commited a hate crime, and in most cases the people accused as such get off, because the prossecution couldn't prove they acted out of hate. For something to be hate crime it has to be an unlawfull action of a person upon a victim, the motivation being the victim's race/religion/gender/sexual orientation etc., something which is not always easy to proove.

Is it not obvious? The person who would attack another to steal their money is only doing that because he needs the money. If he had money, or a viable method of obtaining money he wouldn't commit the crime. The racist/homophobe would only be satisfied once the people who are ther target of his/her prejudice disappeared, were eliminated (in other words some form of genocide happened).

And do I really need to explain to you why someone who premeditates a murder (esentially a diabolical mind) is more dangerous that someone who kills on the spur of the moment (someone who may simply loose control)?

Establising motive is important, worth dedicating time to (and essential in any case), and necessary to make the right objective decision.