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Armads on 23 October 2010

Talib is arabic for 'one who is seeking' and it is generally used in a religious context.  The Taliban are a very different organization than Al-Qaeda.  They arose because of the civil war in afghanist and the chaos and lawlessness the infighting was bringing to the country. The main struggle at that time in Kabul was between the forces of Burhanuddin Rabbani and his commander Ahmad Shah Masood and their allies on one side and the forces of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and his allies on the other side. As a result, about two thirds of Kabul was razed to the ground resembling "an archeological site" with a UN estimated deaths of 50,000 civilians. The rest of the country was taken by warlords and petty chieftains who ruled their areas with a free-for-all attitude.

This was an age of utter chaos for the country where only the strong could find peace.  Then sometime in 1994 in the Quandahar province a group of people from Madrassa headed by Mullah Muhommad Omar arrived with the intention of establishing a law of the land to bring order.  The complete lack of law and order allowed the Taliban to rise to power as the good guy for bringing stability.  The inital goal of the Taliban was to instill an islamic state from the very start though.  They sought to unite afghanistan under sharia law.



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solinox on 23 October 2010

New topic: Not ALL white males are serial killers, but MOST serial killers are white males.

Yeah, this stupid discussion can be held about ANY group. Lets identify each group by it's worst part, then we'll ask for the nice parts to fix it. So please, non-killer white males, please talk sense into the ones that kill and eat people or lock their daughters in basements for sex. We'll have the blacks talk to their inmates about rape and drug use, and Asians talk to their country men about the human rights atrocities that occur....

I can't believe this topic was actually started...



RageBot on 23 October 2010
ChichiriMuyo said:
richardhutnik said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:

Odd dynamic going on here. 

We all know that the majority of muslims are peaceful.  However, we also know that most of the recent terrorist attacks in America and Europe have been muslim extremists despite making up a tiny percentage of the population.   With the two rare exceptions of Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph most terrorist attacks on America have been by muslim radicals.

It is my hope that the moderate majority of muslims will reign in the minority exremist elements and we can all live in peace.  We should all support and encourage the moderate Muslims

Do you expect Christians to "reign in McVeys" or those who are opposed to abort to "reign in" abortion clinic bombers, or those opposed to globalization to "reign in" Unabombers?  The reality is now, the ideology of revoltion around the world (the dominant one) happens to be fundamentalist Islam.  Islam is what people who feel oppressed will rally to for liberation.  Acts done in the name of government or law enforcement are seen as either parts of politics, or strong enforcement of law.  Individuals who fight back with violence against the system get labelled as "terrorist" today (used to be "criminals" but that apparently didn't deter anything).

Because Islam is in the realm of revolution now, it will produce acts that Communist rebels used to do.  It is hard, for the Muslim community to deal with this.   Only thing that can be done is speak to what really Islam is about today, by putting perhaps a Muslim cultural center say near the 9/11 site (sorry, scratch that, that is SOOO offensive, it can't happen) and by marginalizing those who have gone off the deep end.  Calling in the authorities at the right time would help.

However, so long as you have states like Iran using groups like Hezbollah to do proxy wars, you still will end up having issues.

 

Interesting that you pointed to Hezbollah, as it was formed to protect Lebanon from Israeli invasions (of which there have been three or four, depending on who you ask) and to retake lands conqured by a foreign power (which still hasn't been accomplished 100% even as of yet).  Also, with the money Iran has, if they wanted to fight a proxy war they could do a lot more than prop up Hezbollah.  Not nearly as much as the US could do, of course (in fact one of the biggest threats to Israel, Egypt, is held at bay simply by force of American tax-payer money), but enough to constitute a severe threat to Israel rather than a severe threat to the lands they have taken illegally through war.


...What?

Hezbolla may have been created as a way to drive Israel away from Lebanon, but they still are nothing but terrorists.

During the 2006 Lebanon war, Hezbollah bombarded Israeli towns with rockets for the sole reason of killing and terrorizing civilian population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

Pretty much every Israeli attack, in history, has been a retaliation to assaults by other forces, and most civilians killed by Israeli forces are men used as meat shields by the terrorist groups Israel is trying to stop, that's because groups like Hamas and Hezbollah want nothing but destroying Israel and the western civilization, and they don't mind thousands of their pepole dying, as long as they can use their deaths in the media as fuel to ignite even more hatred towards Israel.



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