I'm used to games like Red Dead Redemption, GTA and Fallout where I can go anywhere I want and do many things in a game. Theres no way in hell I'd go back to on rail games that have you limited to what you can do.

New customers include those otherwise not intersted in current games because of the complexity of controllers.  It seems you were judging on your own opinion here not that of a customer interested in new technology.

I looked at that harry potter demo on the E3 stage and I went WTF, all the 2 people  playing the game did was flick there rist at the camera. They stood there flicking there wrist and they looked bored as hell. One of the dudes looked like he wanted to leave.

How old are you?  I doubt Harry Potter is aimed at your demographic anyway.

MS will throw a bunch of money at advertising and trick loads of people into buying something that doesn't appeal to there hardcore fanbase and what does there fanbase get from it, a 10 euro Xbox live price hike which probavly covers the 500mil kinect advertising campaign and no exclusive hardcore games to play until Gears 3 releases Fall 2010

That is probably the brunt of the bias for most people reading your statement.  The term "trick loads of people" is hardly unbiased.  I'm part of the fanbase by the way and I'm more than happy with Microsoft's strategy, wouldn't be the first time Sony fans played list wars and lost 12 months down the line (not unlike 2010).

If Sony focused on move, charged use for its advertising campaign and stopped bring us hardcore gamers exclusives I would be pissed off completely

Microsoft haven't stopped bringing the 360 "hardcore" exclusives so again completely biased and irrelevant statement.

That is a good start, there is plenty left in there for others to rip to pieces if they feel like it.  I'll give you a bit of free advice, don't use terms like putting your bias aside unless you are truly willing to try and be objective in a statement.  A subjective statement can only ever be biased anyway.

 I love how you took what I said and tryed to turn it around like I was talking for everyone even though I mentioned I over a dozen times. If you read my post properly you would see I was talk from a standpoint based on MY OPINION. "I PUT MY BIASED OPINIONS ASIDE AND TOOK A LOOK AT KINECT FROM A CONSUMERS STANDPOINT" Did you get that part. I looked at kinect with no bias to see if I would like it and I didn't. Know where in this post did I say I'll put my bias aside and post a comment on what I think of the situation which is what you seem to think I meant

Secondly that whole part where you said I was being bias. Ya know you can think I was being bias and all but I was only calling it how I see it.MS aren't allowing reviewers to review kinect which means people will have to wait for it to release to see what its like. That to me is a low blow to people wanting to buy something especially if they buy the product for 150 euros and find it to be crap or faulty (I'm not saying it is but it could be). I would think the same for any other company with any other product if they wern't allowing reviews. 

Thirdly  MS raised Xbox live and then they announce a 500million marketing deal for kinect. The way I see it is that extra income is going to pay for kinects marketing. I couldn't give a rats if you disagree because that is MY OPINION.

Fourthly. Fine you are happy with the way MS are conducting buisness. Thats fine with me I never said MS's fanbase where unhappy. What I'm saying is if I only owned an Xbox then I'd be pissed of with the lack of exclusives. After all thats why we choose one consol over the other, for its exclusives. You say MS havn't stopped bringing Exclusives which is true but mate you need to look at the year ahead. The only exclusive after Fable 3 is Gears 3 which is releasing Fall 2011. Other than that its Kinect titles and unannounced/ games with no release dates and still in early development., You want to bring unanounced/ no release date games into it?? Really. You could die in a years time. What then.

Also please elaborate. Whats this whole pulling lists thing your talking about. I seriously want to know?

/golfclap

yeeaaa. sorry, you couldn't be more wrong... about everything really.. with your 'witty' (or should i say shitty) comment... what the hell is a yongers sister? lol, good job sport. now go on and play on your fancy gaming setup, lulz.

After seeing a video of a fighting game where the player kicked and had his foot retrun to the ground before the character on screen began to kick, I can understand why Microsoft is trying to "protect" Kinect from reviewers ...

It is likely that Microsoft initially anticipated strong support from third party publishers, who would bring a lot of quality titles, but what was delivered is much lower quality. Regardless of whether the underlying issues are related to software, Microsoft doesn't want consumers to hear that (some) games are a laggy mess on Kinect before they buy into it.

I have yet to see another Kinect game that fails as far as Fighters Uncaged. That crap is inexcusable.

There is a lot of "people" in your statement interlaced with the word"I".  Let me just explain that "You" and your opinion isn't "Everyones" hence why your original crap about looking from consumers perspective was bullshit to begin with.

Secondly if you were only calling how you see it then how were you putting your bias to one side, you weren't putting your bias anywhere but in words, you were shit stirring.

Thirdly, fair enough I already knew you knew nothing about business and how it works I'll not bother educating you.

Fourthly, I'm pretty sure you could also die in a years time unless you're Dorian Gray, what the fuck as that got to do about listing titles for next year.  You think I'm going to enjoy the next 3 months of my life more knowing what games are due next xmas rather than not knowing till E3? At the end of the day Microsofts list will be as good if not better by the end of next year, it always is.

You asked why they said you were being biased, I explained why.  Don't see why you needed to get all emotional about it. 

I put my bias aside and looked at kinect from a consumer standpoint. As in I looked at kinect from a standpoint of a consumer(someone interested in buying it) and not somebody just knocking it because its a MS product. Do you understand know?

Secondly. Again I did not say I was putting my bias aside for this post. I said I put my bias aside to look at kinect to see if it would interest me. Thats just you twisting words. If I was shit stirring it would be very far fetched. I'm just stating things thats going on and why I think its happened.

Thirdly. Oh please do educate me about it.

Fourthly my point is your saying MS has exclusives and I'm say thats true but the next exclusive is Fall 2011 and the others could be years away because there unannounced or are still in early developments. You say your happy with the way MS is conducting buisness. I'm saying if that was Sony I'd be pissed. I don't have the patience to wait a year for another exclusive game. I'm a gamer mate. Knowing what games are coming is what keeps me gaming

And lastly I'm not getting emotional but it annoys me when people take what you say way out of context or twist your words to make themselfs look better which is what you've been doing

With all the potential problems, anyone who buys this before seeing any reviews is asking to get screwed.

I tried it out in Toronto when it was here and thought it was fun.  Sure the initial batch of games are not meant for hard core gamers but I am not "hard core" so decided to preorder.  If worse comes to worse the final product sucks big time, there is always a 14 day return policy with best buy.  However I will most likely enjoy the excercise and dance "games".  A lot of people say Kinect is expensive but when compared to $99 for a wifi adapter, it is down right cheap since it comes with 1 game bunded in.  Heck I bought an Ipad and PS3 and it costs way more than that.  In the end the iPad is really used to only surf the web while on the couch and I only use PS3 to stream Netflix.  So sure Kinect is not for everyone but for some, it will be a lot of fun.

Microsoft is being smart. And everyone else is being fooled.